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06-14-2010 07:56 AM
alacrity19 I live in south jersey and I trailer my boat. The delaware bay is busy with strong currents, but fun with alot to see. You will also learn alot. The chesapeake is the best sailing on the east coast. Chesapeake and delaware are connected by the 10 mile C & D canal. I think You'll realy like the area.
06-11-2010 02:29 PM
sevent lot's of good info. But also check out Liberty Sailing Club Racing and Cruising J/Boats on the Delaware River Waterfront in Center City Philadelphia sailing club in Philly with almost unlimited access to J27s. What I do (and I am near Lankenau) is club sail in Philly and charter out of the Chesapeake as much as I can for long weekends. Great ports and anchorages all over the CH Bay. You can also join a "sailtime" in philly for a 36 foot cruiser on the Delaware River.
05-25-2010 01:05 PM
Ulladh Rhythm
To clear the flat at Tinicum Island west end.

Clockwise from the up river channel;
-sight a line between the power station twin stacks and the water tower at Thompson Point NJ, stay down river of that line.
-sight a line into Darby Creek so that the RR lift bridge is aligned with the I-95 bridge span, stay down river from that line.
-sight a line from the power station twin stacks to the the blue and white tanks visible on the Jersey side and use this line until past Corinthian.

This will keep you in at least 12ft at low tide.

I like dead reconing for the quests I have at helm, just tell them what to point the boat at.
05-25-2010 11:59 AM
Ulladh Rhythm

If there is a race or just practice stay clear, Penn and Drexel both practice out of Corinthian.
You can hug the edge of the Corintian or West End mooring field and be clear in 20ft at low tide, or the mud flat side good only at high tide.

The power boats give them plenty of clearance by using the mud flat side.

I have not been in the cove on the Jersey side between Mantua and Woodbury creeks, but worth checking with an eye on the depth sounder.

The Jersey side from Mantua Creek to National Park can get shallow rapidly outside the commercial anchorage in the Mifflin Range "Yellow" bouys.

I would suggest dropping anchor just outside the commercial anchorage and dinghy in.

Be careful when in the Mifflin Range anchorage or between the anchorage and the airport dock at slack tide. That is the time slot the tugs use for marshalling the barges.
05-25-2010 11:25 AM
TakeFive Ulladh - Thanks for posting the great pics! It's a good reminder that there is some nice scenery along our part of the Delaware.

Your pics have raised a couple of "newbie" questions for me.

I have not been out while there were races underway. I think that Corinthian does them on Wednesday evenings, right? What are the rules of the road when a race course is marked off? Are you required to steer clear of the entire race course, or can you cut through the course as long as you're not interfering with the race? Obviously the river banks and currents create some limitations on how much you can steer clear, so I would hope that cutting through the course is OK.

Also, some people in my marina have been telling me about a great cove for anchoring/rafting right across the river. They say that there are mooring balls available to tie up, so you don't even need to drop anchor. Based on their descriptions, it sounds like it's the cove for Ron Jaworski's Riverwinds sports complex. Have you gone in there before? It's about a mile up river from Billingsport:

Riverwinds Golf Course, Thorofare, NJ - Google Maps
05-25-2010 10:18 AM
deniseO30 Whats a shame is the upper Delaware. I've been on canoe trips and it's beautiful. hard to believe there really are trout up there!
05-25-2010 10:11 AM
Ulladh More from the scenic Delaware River. Billingsport NJ

05-25-2010 09:49 AM
Ulladh University of Pennsylvania sailing team, practice at Essington.
I touched the mud flat trying not to get to close, while watching the ballet.
05-25-2010 08:04 AM
TakeFive
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Denise
A few time I have managed to balance current on a flood tide across my full keel with the wind in the same direction as the current, to tack river bank to river bank and back on the same close haul. But no forward progress.
And we call that sailing?

I must say it is extremely disconcerting to be close hauled in a flood tide, pointing toward the Boeing facility, seeing the TS buoy 30° to starboard, while the GPS shows the same TS buoy 30° to port. (In other words, the current is pushing us 60° vs. where the boat is pointing.) And it's rather nerve wracking to know that continuing on that tack would push us up on the Little Tinicum sand bar.

All I can say is thank God for GPS! As a beginner "river rat," without that little "toy" on my pedestal guard I know I would have hit that sand bar by now.
05-24-2010 09:55 PM
TakeFive FYI, here are some tax rates:

Pa. State Income Tax 3.07%
Pa. State Unemployment Insurance 0.08%
City of Philadelphia Resident Tax 3.9296%
City of Philadelphia Non-Resident Tax 3.4997%

PA's income tax is a flat tax - virtually no deductions and no progressive rates. When I lived in NJ up to 10 years ago it was an almost-flat tax with almost no deductions, rates pretty close to PA. DE and MD are progressive tax rates at a higher rate than PA or NJ, but with lots of deductions - basically the same deductions as federal.

If you buy a home, DE and MD have reasonable property taxes, PA and NJ very high. DE has no sales tax. (If you buy a boat, don't think of registering in DE to avoid sales tax unless you really plan to keep/use it in DE. The neighboring states are wise to that.) So it's a tradeoff of different tax types in different states. For this reason, the states often do not get along very well and will sometimes deny reciprocity, which complicates things if you work in PA and live in DE. PA hates DE and will not offer income tax reciprocity - but they do offer tax credits that prevent some double-taxation. Interestingly, though, PA does get along with MD and NJ, so if you live in MD or NJ you would pay tax to your home state instead of PA. Despite this, Philly always gets their wage tax if you work in city limits. But I think NJ might give you somewhat of a break on their state tax if you pay the Philly wage tax. I don't know for sure because when I lived there I was working outside Philly.

Take all of this with a grain of salt, since I am not a tax professional - just a professional tax payer . If this is critical to your decision, please consult with a real tax professional. But consider yourself lucky that you were warned - since I was not when I moved here.
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