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|05-04-2006 08:35 PM|
I don't own a Catalina 40 but I do have a Catalina 350. I should have posted this earlier in the thread, but I observe the boats on the dock where my slip is and I have to say that Catalina equips its boats very well. I had a Jeanneau 35 next to my boat and now have a Beneteau 331 next to me and two 2005 Hunter 36s (part of the local Sailtime franchise) a few slips down. My boat has bigger Harken genoa winches than any of these boats and has a very robust Garhauer traveler, larger and sturdier than any of these boats. Catalina uses large open Garhauer blocks; the others have smaller blocks and/or blocks made partially of plastic. The size of the running rigging is also larger than these other boats. All of this equipment is standard.
I am not knocking these other boats; I'm merely reporting what I can see with my own eyes and Catalina is doing a great job on the equipment that counts.
|05-02-2006 10:00 AM|
I've met many Beneteau's while out cruising. They have a huge share of design and warranty problems. You might be better off buying a slighty
used boat that has been debugged.........
|05-02-2006 08:33 AM|
|sailingdog||Install a padded ceiling liner... or get a shorter wife|
|05-01-2006 11:45 PM|
I traded my 1979 c30 (+some cash) for a 2000 c400 last spring. My family of 5 spent every weekend on the boat, plus one longer vacation. The boat handles great in heavy seas/winds, its easy to sail. The equipment/hardware is all easy to use and hasn't been a problem. The duel helm works out great, especially when we are backed into a dock. It seems to be at least as fast as the boats of equal length around me even though I'm a lousy sailtrimmer. In terms of quality, just stomp around the cockpit and try pushing some fiberglass around, then go do that on a Hunter or Beneteau, you'll see the difference instantly. I got a lot of comments last year about this as soon as other sailors came aboard, it just feels like it's solidly built...time will tell. There are two items that I read about in reviews that I agree with: 1. Engine noise down below-Not horrible but definately louder than average 2. The heads stink-mine are fine until the tank is 3/4 full, then it is really noticable...I have heard people have solved this by replacing hoses, I will probably look at that this year. Two other little things, if you are a klutz you have to wear a helmet to bed in the aft cabin, and if you are heeled over too far you lose the prime on the aft a/c unit. The a/c problem turns out to be really easy, as all you have to do is open a stopcock below the cabin floor for a second, but my wife keeps hitting her head while getting into and out of bed and I haven't figured a solution to that yet. Good luck with your new boat, let me know if you have any problems.
|05-01-2006 10:10 PM|
Love my C400 MKII
I bought a C400 MKII in 2001 that was less than a year old and had already been commissioned. In the 5 years since, I've had this boat in a variety of conditions. I have the roller furling mainsail which probably hurts me a little in light air but the 155 makes up for it. On the other hand, most of my sailing is in relatively heavy air with 20kts on an average day and the boat handles very well I think. I think the biggest problem I have in handling the boat is a bit more weather helm than I would like. Having said that, I use the mainsail roller furling to balance the boat and it works pretty well. I've had the boat in 45kts and breaking seas (single-handed) and never felt like the boat was out of control; in the same blow, I hove to in order to get some rest and with the sails properly balanced the boat sat very well and comfortable. I singlehand this boat a lot and I think it's pretty easy to sail by myself. I find the dual helm useful--when sailing I can stay on the windward side and have great visibility; it also makes docking alone a little easier (now if I could just put another throttle lever on the other side...).
Most people comment on the roominess and "dockside" comfort of this type of boat and that is certainly true with the C400. However, I think it needs more dedicated storage and lockers or at least better organized lockers (the cockpit lockers are large and deep but feel like a huge hole that everything wants to fall into). The worst thing about the interior is that the cockpit sole is pretty low over the aft bunk and it takes a little while to get used to it (ouch). The companionway is a little on the steep side but enables a nice bridgedeck--keeping water outside.
Overall, I truly enjoy this boat and find it a really good compromise between comfort/liveability and sailing capability, especially it's easy of singlehanding considering it's size.
|05-01-2006 08:35 PM|
Originally Posted by flysurfer
|07-25-2002 08:36 PM|
Sure, but I don''t have your email address. I tried looking you up in the sailnet member search and I couldn''t find anything.
But you can go to http://www.marisystems.com/amoreena/ and see the boat
His contact info is there and his name is Norm. Tell him tsenator sent ya......good luck.
|07-25-2002 05:54 PM|
I''d appreciate if you''d forward my email address to your friend in RI. I''d be very interest in what he has for sale and his comments on the C400MKII
|07-25-2002 08:07 AM|
I''d also like to challenge the supposed claim that Catalinas look more worn than the Beneteaus or Hunters. In fact, in all my looking around, I have found just the opposite !!! (and I tend to spend alot of my free time wondering around boat yards looking at boats....I enjoy it) From what I have seen (at least in all the Marinas I visit on Long Island Sound) the Catalinas seem to look the best. I pay special attention to the C36''s the most(since I own one) and I am amazed at how good alot of them look, even the ones that were made in the 80''s. I think the Hunters are the ones that look the worse for wear (other than the Cherubini designs, which still look very good indeed). The Beneteaus fall somewhere in between where some look very good and some are looking pretty ragged (maybe something to do with the different models that Bene came out with). And it really depends on how the boat was used and maintained, maybe the ones you checked out were "worked hard and put away wet". At least it shows that they where being well used and not just a floating condo.
Plus for more info on the boat, the owners and some other stuff. The C400 has a users group and a website htp://www.catalina400.org/. You could try contacting someone there.
|07-25-2002 07:30 AM|
Take a look through these archives. There has been a lot said on the subject in general.
Another place to post this question with people that *actually own* a Catalina 400 would be on www.catalinaowners.com. At least there you will get comments from people that Sail on, live on, live with, etc etc the Cat 400. The problem with this sailnet board is that too often the same people makes the same comments over and over and before long it becomes ''gospel''. Thats the problem with the internet in general. Personally the "admiral" loves this boat, at least the room on it, the aft cabin is positively envious etc, etc. I have heard it is a little faster than the C42 in lighter air, but the C42 can take the bigger air a little better. Not sure if I am in love with the dual helm, but in personal discussions with the few people that have it, they said they have come to really like it and its easy to helm from either tack and it does really open up the cockpit and there is a *little* redundancy built into the system.
If you look at a used boat they have a different and smaller engine than the newer ones. It is fine, but if you want to be able to make hull speed under motor (for whatever reason) then you might want the newer/bigger engine or possibly upgrade the prop to an Autoprop which will tend to get the most HP out of an engine as possible at all speeds.
As for Catalina''s I think they are a damn fine boat. Bene''s are nice too with better woodwork down below, but I like some of the design features for coastal cruising (useability, comfort under sail, etc) of the Catalina a bit better. Plus I feel the Catalina loyalty and Owners groups are some of the strongest you will find around. And it seems the resale value of the Catalina hold up very well.....(But the new Bene 473 is an awful lot of sweet boat for the money).
Also as someone said previously go into the Sailnet archives right here under the "Catalina" list and do a search for the C400.
ps. If you are anywhere near the Rhode Island area I know someone selling a C400 and I know personally that he takes exceptionally good care of his boat. Plus if you want to email him, he would give you the Good, Bad and the Ugly......he doesn''t sugar coat things and will be honest.
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