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07-01-2010 03:27 PM
sailingdog Yup...mentioned that site a few posts earlier. Only applies to newer boat designs though.
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The fix is quite easy. Anchor by the stern.. I do and it works...
Jordan Series Drogue - Mooring and Anchoring
07-01-2010 10:01 AM
rtbates
easy fix

The fix is quite easy. Anchor by the stern.. I do and it works...
Jordan Series Drogue - Mooring and Anchoring
07-01-2010 09:30 AM
SJ34 Thanks Craig, I thought I was going senile.
07-01-2010 02:21 AM
Craig Smith
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Craig, what kind of rode do you suggest?
SJ my post above (#10) is not what I actually wrote, I was referencing some articles on the Rocna Knowledge Base one of which talked rode optimizations and the others about rope and chain. There's a lot of info there. However an over-zealous SailNet moderator has edited the post and removed the links (for the record they aren't on the topic of anchors and hardly mention the Rocna). It's a bit pointless continuing to post on the topic without being able to refer to the material I need, so feel free to e-mail me directly.
07-01-2010 12:37 AM
Faster
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I won't have a riding sail in time for this weekend but my better half is handy with a sewing machine and I have a stack of sails from past boats, so I may try to whip something up. How is the luff supported, does it have extra ribbing or a batten to keep it from collapsing, halyard or?
Ours was just hanked onto the backstay, and the 'foot and leech' are slightly hollow cut, with a sheet pulling forward off the "clew" (which is actually facing into the wind) No battens, no noise if it's properly tensioned.

Really takes the edge of the swinging motion, becomes more of a gentle dance rather than charging off in one direction after the other.
06-30-2010 09:55 PM
SJ34 Craig, what kind of rode do you suggest?
06-30-2010 09:29 PM
Craig Smith You don't need to replace the nylon with chain, although that would also help if the rope is at fault, rather you would replace it with less stretchy rope - multi-braid polyester would be an improvement. The problem is lots of folk use a long length of nylon, 3-strand the worst, without thinking about how much stretch they're introducing.

Rudder position can help disrupt things. Running the rode off-center is probably a better idea. The boat will still sail about though, you are not fixing the fundamental issue(s).
06-30-2010 09:19 PM
SJ34 I appreciate all of the advice guys. I owe you all a round of barley pops.

In all the years I've been sailing I can count the times on two hands that I've had to anchor overnight. In SoCal it just isn't necessary until you get to the more remote areas. I'm an expert at docking in all conditions...and picking up a mooring ball though.

John, I do have a furling headsail and it did occur to me that I should probably take it down while at anchor. I'll drop it this weekend to see what effect that has.

I won't have a riding sail in time for this weekend but my better half is handy with a sewing machine and I have a stack of sails from past boats, so I may try to whip something up. How is the luff supported, does it have extra ribbing or a batten to keep it from collapsing, halyard or?

I can see the logic in nylon stretch being partly to blame for my swing. I can't see it snubbing but I'll watch for it next time. Adding more chain isn't going to make weighing anchor fun without a windlass but for peace of mind I'm willing to give it a shot.

SD, does rudder position matter when anchored from the stern?
06-30-2010 02:44 PM
foxglove Our 32 Pearson also 'sails' at anchor. We use 50' of chain followed by 200' of 3 strand nylon which holds well.

Last October, when anchored by the Naval Academy in Annapolis for the boat show, we observed that every boat around us sat still while we visited every boat within swing room. I payed out more rode, from 120' to 200' but found ourselves visiting different boats.

We had pleasant conversations with the other sailors but would have rather met them in a bar than 10' from their boats with the apprehension that we might need to fend off.

I suspect that the other boats were held still by the weight of their all-chain anchor rode which draped directly down over the bow while our nylon flexed tight with each puff. We were the only boat with chain/nylon and the only boat that sailed on the anchor.

Could that be a solution to the swing problem?
06-30-2010 02:42 PM
sailingdog BTW, if you're wondering why anchoring from the stern works... see Don Jordan's explanation at his website.
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