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07-23-2010 02:45 PM
whateverfun2
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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
Aaron-
" I have a problem with saving large amounts of money at dollars an hour 10.00 an hour." I very much understand that situation. Just bear in mind, if the deck has delaminated, or the hull has extensive blistering, or there's a problem with the keel, and you can't fix it because you need an extra thousand or three in materials (and you'll be paying yard fees and not sailing the boat while you do that work for many hours), or in the worst case you find out the boat is terminal and you have to pay a hazmat waste disposal fee to get a hauler to take it away...
Sometimes an old boat is a bargain, but sometimes it is a big surprise. Just find someone who knows enough to make sure it won't be a big surprise. And of course, look into whether you'll be required to have insurance, which may require the survey anyway. Some of them require you to use one of "their" approved surveyors, so that's something to find out ahead of time.

Very Ture...I will be getting her surveyed pretty soon her have to wait for the next check till i can do it tho...I guess the hazmat scars me the most...but I don't mind it costing me 8,000 in materials because I can piece it out 500 here 2000 there, and honestly working on the boat is as enjoyable as sailing the boat for me..but I do understand what your saying and this way at least what I know i have to fix by getting the survey.
07-23-2010 01:45 PM
hellosailor Aaron-
" I have a problem with saving large amounts of money at dollars an hour 10.00 an hour." I very much understand that situation. Just bear in mind, if the deck has delaminated, or the hull has extensive blistering, or there's a problem with the keel, and you can't fix it because you need an extra thousand or three in materials (and you'll be paying yard fees and not sailing the boat while you do that work for many hours), or in the worst case you find out the boat is terminal and you have to pay a hazmat waste disposal fee to get a hauler to take it away...
Sometimes an old boat is a bargain, but sometimes it is a big surprise. Just find someone who knows enough to make sure it won't be a big surprise. And of course, look into whether you'll be required to have insurance, which may require the survey anyway. Some of them require you to use one of "their" approved surveyors, so that's something to find out ahead of time.
07-23-2010 12:14 PM
olson34
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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
If there is a HIN (required in the US beginning in 1972, dunno about Canada) make sure that the same HIN is on the title and bill of sale, and that it is sold "free and clear of all liens and encumbrances".

Even on a 25' boat, you might want to have it surveyed. If there is a problem below the waterline, with the keel, etc. the repairs or disposal costs can FAR EXCEED what your whole budget for the boat was. (There are problems above the waterline that can be just as bad.)
Second that motion. Always get a survey -- even if the boat is "free."
Your insurer may require a survey. Most marinas will demand proof of insurance that includes "pollution abatement and wreck removal".
Sidebar: While this is probably not your fault or that of 99% of us here, blame it on a series of huge marina fires started by (normally power) boats with faulty wiring hookups or fuel containment problems around the NW.

L
07-23-2010 11:52 AM
mitiempo Probably 1971 or 1972 but not sure.
07-23-2010 05:14 AM
whateverfun2
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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
If there is a HIN (required in the US beginning in 1972, dunno about Canada) make sure that the same HIN is on the title and bill of sale, and that it is sold "free and clear of all liens and encumbrances".

Even on a 25' boat, you might want to have it surveyed. If there is a problem below the waterline, with the keel, etc. the repairs or disposal costs can FAR EXCEED what your whole budget for the boat was. (There are problems above the waterline that can be just as bad.)
No Hull ID on this boat, at least not where everybody said it should be, as for the survey, it was done 3 years ago, I know it should have gotten one but, I its not really the money I am worried about. I have a problem with saving large amounts of money at dollars an hour 10.00 an hour. so getting this at $3,000 and fixing up it up is ok with me. I know I won't ever get the money out of it but it will also give me something to enjoy and I can get to know the boat this way.

P.S. Does anybody know what year the last Haida was made?

-Aaron
07-22-2010 11:22 PM
hellosailor If there is a HIN (required in the US beginning in 1972, dunno about Canada) make sure that the same HIN is on the title and bill of sale, and that it is sold "free and clear of all liens and encumbrances".

Even on a 25' boat, you might want to have it surveyed. If there is a problem below the waterline, with the keel, etc. the repairs or disposal costs can FAR EXCEED what your whole budget for the boat was. (There are problems above the waterline that can be just as bad.)
07-22-2010 11:00 PM
mitiempo John
What you said about Canadian Registration is true if the boat is Bluebook registered ( our version of the American Documentation) but not manu smaller boats are. If it is not it will probably be registered in the province the past owner lived in and that varies by province. This is only required if the boat has an engine of 10 horsepower or more but a 26' boat probably would have this.

Aaron
If the boat has a hull id number it is probably on the transom near the deck starboard side. I'm not sure when Canadian boats were required to do this but the Haida may predate this as they were built as early as 1965. Nice boat by the way, there is one just down the dock from me. And they were built right here in Victoria by Mayhew & Strutt.
HAIDA 26 Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com
07-22-2010 10:58 PM
olson34 Nice looking boat! I believe that your picture shows a late model one with the trunk cabin -- earlier ones were flush deck and so had less head room inside.

Nice bridge deck to keep obnoxious waves out and a motor well to maximize the drive from an outboard.

The HIN number code should be on the outside of the transom, unless it's earlier than '69 or '70, when the HIN was starting to be required to be molded into the gel coat.

Have fun with your boat!

L
07-22-2010 08:43 PM
whateverfun2 oh I called the OSM and told me what paper work I have to fill out and a sheriff is coming out to inspect the boat.
07-22-2010 08:42 PM
whateverfun2 I really don't know much about the boat I just kinda feel in love with it, I am 25 and just started to get into sailing. I been sailing 5 times but this boat was in my budget. I wanted something I could take into the Gulf of Mexico. I heard this boat is good I really don't know much about it. I was also wondering if anybody knows where the Hull ID numbers are on this boat or build number. Here is a few pictures.





Thanks for the help
Aaron
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