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07-30-2010 12:13 PM
lydanynom
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Originally Posted by dhays View Post
Good point about all boats being different. However, using two separate lines, tied to the clue [clew] with bowlines is the only way I'd go. Maybe it is just 45+ years of habit. I don't leave my jib sheets tied to the sail. They get removed and stowed. It is quicker and easier to tie a bowline than use most shackles. It also gives more flexibility than using a single line and cow hitch.

Dave
In my case I have two headsails, a working jib and a genoa, and the sheets for each go to different tracks and cleats, so I wouldn't gain anything by switching to a method that was easier to remove from the sail.
07-30-2010 11:53 AM
dhays Good point about all boats being different. However, using two separate lines, tied to the clue with bowlines is the only way I'd go. Maybe it is just 45+ years of habit. I don't leave my jib sheets tied to the sail. They get removed and stowed. It is quicker and easier to tie a bowline than use most shackles. It also gives more flexibility than using a single line and cow hitch.

Dave
07-29-2010 05:00 PM
pdqaltair
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Originally Posted by sck5 View Post
imagine that shackle flogging around some time. I wonder what it would hit? You? Fiberglass? A port or hatch?
Again, we all think about the boats we have and not the boats of others.

On a Hobie cat, for example, the jib is cut too high to hit anything, and there is no forward deck. On my PDQ, the tack of the jib is too high to hit anything other than the mast. If I roll in just a little, not even that. Low genoas have their downside... that and every port-tack boat that has tried to run me down has had one .

That said, I use a cow hitch on my genoa.
07-29-2010 03:04 PM
killarney_sailor
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imagine that shackle flogging around some time. I wonder what it would hit? You? Fiberglass? A port or hatch?
upside the head! I have been hit by bowline when forward getting a jib down in a squall - nasty enough without it being a hunk of metal.
07-29-2010 01:47 PM
mpickering I use a cow hitch and a single line. Shackles are expensive! One less thing to break.

Matt
07-29-2010 12:37 PM
SebastienL I am currently using the following setup and it should fit your need (easy to detach / reattach, no dangerous shackle flying around):

Tying Jib Sheets - Soft Shackle for Jibsheets (link here)

I've only installed this 2 weeks ago so I haven't tested this setup at all... But it does seem solid.
07-29-2010 12:15 PM
miduship15 Clearly, a shackle is not a good idea, between the chance of it flying around or the chance of it snagging then releasing while tacking.

On my cruising boat, I use the single line with a cow hitch. On racing boats, I prefer separate bow and starboard sheets (tied on with bowlines) to permit changing the headsail without dropping the jib in use.
07-29-2010 11:08 AM
lydanynom
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Originally Posted by trantor12020 View Post
here we go again.
I just tried searching but came up with ziilch. Where is the previous discussion?
07-29-2010 11:07 AM
trantor12020 here we go again.
07-29-2010 10:59 AM
14432
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Originally Posted by lydanynom View Post
My headsail sheets are one continuous line attached to the clew at its centerpoint with a cow hitch rather than two separate lines attached with bowlines. I've been really happy with that setup. There seems to be less to snag, I think it winds up being lighter, and there is no risk of the flogging sail ever shaking out a knot.
Agree - single line & cowhitch is the best way
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