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08-03-2010 04:48 PM
sailingfool
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCP View Post
With your Bimini I am sure you can sail the boat with it mounted. With the huge one you are proposing I doubt you can have it up with 20k of wind and it will obstruct completely your view to the mainsail. It is dificultt to sail without seeing the mainsail.

Regards

Paulo
I've had my full-cockpit bimini in use over 25 knots and it is not an issue at all, the tiedowns keep it quite still and silent. It is common to put a window in the bimini so the helmsperson can see the leech of the main, just as you often see in jibs...
08-03-2010 04:47 PM
lans0012
Good points

Thanks again for the feedback. I think the drawing really helped me visualize the setup. I think I will go with one of the "run whatcha brung" approaches and save the cashola. I think I will cut it down and move it forward. With it being up so high it still might not give me enough shade to make "effing" with the rest of the stuff worth it. With the boat heeled over that bimini would be like an extra 50 Sq feet of poorly placed sail area to contend with.

The future owner...there always will be...may not appreciate my "ideas" as much as I would and could detract from the resale. My dock neighbor said to quit screwing around and buy a 38' Cabo Rico or whatever. I'll have to look into that.

Thank you sailnet for helping me think this through.
08-03-2010 03:16 PM
JonnyQuest
move it forward

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Originally Posted by bljones View Post
lans,
Looking at the pics, as i see it the problem is not so much that your existing bimini is too small, but that it is poorly located. You never sit that far back on a tiller boat, so half the bimini is useless. Move it forward 8-12" and you will have shade where you need it, at no cost. Okay, there is the cost of filling the holes where the bimini mounting pads were located, but it's sure cheaper then the alternative.
Good point here. Mine is further forward than yours, and while it is the same length and stern end is not covered, I've found that this is only a real issue when sailing with the sun at your back. And then I simply detach the front bimini holding strap and hook it further back on a line running into the cockpit--allows the bimini to lower to an appropriate angle to block sun from teh stern end. May have looked goofy, but worked well. Probably not a good idea in heavier winds though!
08-03-2010 03:00 PM
sailordave I would not get a custom cut mainsail just so you can have a bimini. Changing something away from STOCK will lower your resell potential and since there is an active racing class of C27.....
Learn to sail sitting down using what you have.
And I agree; you are NOT going to want a big bimini up in heavy wind.
08-03-2010 02:50 PM
PCP With your Bimini I am sure you can sail the boat with it mounted. With the huge one you are proposing I doubt you can have it up with 20k of wind and it will obstruct completely your view to the mainsail. It is dificultt to sail without seeing the mainsail.

Regards

Paulo
08-03-2010 10:55 AM
lans0012
Also a good idea

BLJ,

That is also another idea I've been kicking around. Everything is a compromise I guess. Not totally the way to go but leaves 1000-1500 in the kitty for a rainy day.
08-03-2010 09:49 AM
bljones lans,
Looking at the pics, as i see it the problem is not so much that your existing bimini is too small, but that it is poorly located. You never sit that far back on a tiller boat, so half the bimini is useless. Move it forward 8-12" and you will have shade where you need it, at no cost. Okay, there is the cost of filling the holes where the bimini mounting pads were located, but it's sure cheaper then the alternative.
08-03-2010 09:38 AM
lans0012 Thank you all for your comments. I would love to have a dodger as well but the traveler is mounted on the bridge deck(ie in the companionway) and see how I could add a dodger but I still wouldn't be able to connect it while sailing. And that is the issue...no shade while sailing. A dodger would be killer though.
08-03-2010 09:37 AM
WanderingStar I removed my bimini for the same reasons. I don't miss it much yet. But it hurt my neck (I'm 6'5") to stand under it, and I couldn't see my mooring without standing. I'm considering replacing the frame with fiberglass rods or pvc or something which would give me the ability to easily raise and lower it. The current frame can't go up or down with the boom in place. Something flexible might stand the boom passing over it, or at least be easily struck and stowed.
08-03-2010 09:28 AM
JonnyQuest A buddy and I took our sons out last weekend in Louisiana and it was H-O-T here too! My buddy does not care for biminis (being a racer), but he sure developed an appreciation for them that day! He's had heat stress before and is susceptible to it now; even with the bimini for most of the ride, when it was time for dropping the sails to head in, that little bit of sun and heat got him quickly.

As far as the neccessity of head room, my friend is about 6'2" and he didn't complain about headroom (though I'm not sure of my clearance--I'm 5'10"). Perhaps it wasn't an issue because we were sitting most of the time.

How tall are you?

If raising the bimini and boom is too much trouble, based on your pictures I still like the idea of extending your bimini to cover more of the cockpit, if possible.
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