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Topic Review (Newest First)
08-09-2010 10:56 PM
sailor50 Nike says *Just Do It!

A benefit is great !
08-09-2010 10:22 PM
hellosailor Maritime lawyers, like all lawyers, would get more respect if fully half of them didn't lose on each case. Batting 500 is only considered competent in baseball.

So for every lawyer who knows his business...there's another one out there, wearing the same suit, charging the same rate, saying he's wrong.

Cointoss?
08-09-2010 09:22 PM
tommays Well

A sailnet member has had to live through the worst case horror of having there sailboat run down by a powerboat and the legal sxxx-storm that followed


As a matter of fact there have been several high profile powerboat /sailboat fatal encounters in the last few years
08-09-2010 08:50 PM
sailingfool
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Originally Posted by jnorten View Post
Go ahead and donate the ride.

Here is how it breaks down:

1. You are taking a group of folks out for a boat ride--don't many boat owners do this all of the time? YES.

2. When a boat owner takes folks out for a boat ride, isn't there liability involved? Yes. Do boat owners worry about this? Perhaps.

3. In THIS SPECIFIC CASE, the people that you will take out for a boat ride have happened to make a donation to a charity.

4. I've donated rides (albeit much less extravagant on rented park district boats) for my church's camp fundraiser. The person "purchasing" the ride writes a check to the church. At some point after that, I just happen to take that same person for a nice boat ride.

5. Would folks "purchasing" a ride like this be the kind of folks who file a lawsuit when someone is injured? Stranger things have happened...but I think the odds are HEAVILY in YOUR favor.
Your careless advice brings to mind Alfred E. Newman's idiom, WHAT, ME WORRY?
08-09-2010 07:38 PM
knothead Bun fight! Bun fight! Bun fight!

Danjarch's post made the most sense to me. But then I'm not the kind of guy who lives in fear of litigation or the one in a million chance of being sued.

"Bene, these guys are missing the forest for the trees. Donate your boat for an evening and volunteer to accompany the winning bidder to help sail the boat. Then your not chartering or captaining with out a license. Your not even renting out your boat since your not being paid for the loan. The same as if you loaned your boat to a buddy to take out friend, then decided to go out with them.

And for the record I've known a few captains and boat charter companies who've used the same trick and even had run ins with the coast guard with out getting in trouble. On those occasions, it was the boat rental company that would then give over phone numbers of local captains it recommended. This get's you around the six passenger rule. But only on un-inspected vessel. This works under the same rules that govern a private yacht. If someone owns a boat and hires a captain to drive the boat then invites twenty of his friends out for a trip then it's not illegal. Same if the boat was rented.


So donate your boat for the evening and go along for the cruise. Since your not getting paid your insurance company should view it as taking out a couple of aquaintences. And since you both support the same charity, it would be pretty hard to argue that They're not your aquaintences."


08-09-2010 07:16 PM
carl762
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By the way, I never said I was a lawyer. You've got to pay attention to the details.
Juris Doctors go to law school to get that degree in law. So, you didn’t take, or didn’t pass, the bar.

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In the varied course of my life, I have acquired both a 50 ton near coastal
masters ticket and a juris doctor degree.
FSMike, you’re an abrasive cuss. I can’t see why anybody would want to answer your question.

You got legal training - answer your own question.

\this thread should die a horrible death!!!!!
08-09-2010 06:46 PM
msmith10 Jeez, I hope this thread is done. But, FSMike, I am curious about who you murdered with that axe.
08-09-2010 06:46 PM
jnorten Go ahead and donate the ride.

Here is how it breaks down:

1. You are taking a group of folks out for a boat ride--don't many boat owners do this all of the time? YES.

2. When a boat owner takes folks out for a boat ride, isn't there liability involved? Yes. Do boat owners worry about this? Perhaps.

3. In THIS SPECIFIC CASE, the people that you will take out for a boat ride have happened to make a donation to a charity.

4. I've donated rides (albeit much less extravagant on rented park district boats) for my church's camp fundraiser. The person "purchasing" the ride writes a check to the church. At some point after that, I just happen to take that same person for a nice boat ride.

5. Would folks "purchasing" a ride like this be the kind of folks who file a lawsuit when someone is injured? Stranger things have happened...but I think the odds are HEAVILY in YOUR favor.
08-09-2010 06:13 PM
sailingdog FSM—

I'll take Bubb2 and Sway's combined years of experience plus the word of a USCG examiner over a person with a JD who doesn't admit to being a lawyer... If you're so curious, why don't you call the USCG Officer that Bubb2 spoke with? All you have to do is dial the phone... Bubb2 even provided a phone number for you.
08-09-2010 05:36 PM
cardiacpaul fs...so, nyah... what are you, 12?
It must suck to be wro--- wro=== wro---, say it with me it won't hurt, promise... wrong.
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