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4 Weeks Ago 04:43 PM
travlineasy
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

She always enjoyed most of the 18 boats I've owned during our 52 year marriage, but since she retired 6 years ago, her level of physical activity went pretty much down to zero, thus her overall health has severely suffered. Most of the time I sail by myself, at least for the past two years, because she has a great deal of difficulty getting on and off the boat, and going down the 4-step ladder to the cabin. And, she equates living aboard to camping out in a tent, mainly because I don't have a genset on the boat to run the AC when it gets hot, or the heat pump when it gets cold.

The boat has all the comforts of home - AC/heat pump, swamp cooler AC, 2 burner gas stove, gas oven, refrigerator/freezer, hot and cold running water, big galley (I do all the cooking, though), big stainless galley sink, flat screen TV, head with shower (she says the head is too small), huge Vee berth, big quarter berth, dinette turns into queen size bed with air mattress and memory foam topper, lots and lots of storage, AM/FM/CD stereo system, AC power to 1,500-watts throughout the boat, big spacious cockpit with full cushions and full enclosure for when it's cold, and screened enclosure when it's buggy, 7-foot ceiling height throughout, great interior lighting, fans at three locations, AND, the boat sails like a dream, does not heel more than 7 degrees on 20 MPH wind while on a beam reach, handles well in a following sea, very dry in all sea conditions, doesn't rock all over the place at most anchorages and a very, very comfortable helm seat. Oh, and it's paid for - no payments other than slip rent, which is relatively low where I'm at - Just $1,600 a year. I told her that I would put in an electric lift for the cabin ladder, but she said I would be wasting my money. Not much more that I can do other than install a genset, but I don't think that will make any difference. Guess I'm on my own.

Yesterday, while motor sailing up Chesapeake Bay (the wind had nearly died), I was sitting in the helm seat, a frosty, cold Margaretta in my right hand, my feet propped up on the gunwale and watching the world go by, I said to myself, this, damn-it, is the way I want to spend the rest of my days. Therefore, when October 1st rolls around, I am going to fully retire. I've been working for 65 years, non stop, with only a 5-month pause when I was paralyzed from the waist down due to herniated disks in my lower spine. Since then, when I was faced with the prospect of never being able walk again, I decided to enjoy life to the fullest, doing a job I really enjoyed doing, and for the most part, that's exactly what I have done. Now, my entire spine is shot from peripheral neuropathy, which is the result of Lymne's Disease and a deficiency of B-12. My music career skyrocketed, I perform 5 to 7 days a week, but every day that I'm not working I'm on that old tub of a Morgan, headed somewhere over the horizon. As the Zack Brown song goes "Life is good today, life is good today."

All the best,

Gary
4 Weeks Ago 12:04 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

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Originally Posted by travlineasy View Post
After more than a half century of being married, I'm thoroughly convinced that the only way I could make my wife happy aboard a boat is if I purchased her a small cruise ship.
That's too bad, Gary. Was she really into it before? May or may not be a good comparison for the OP.

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As for the diesel genset, they are very expensive, and if you have ever anchored downwind of one, the smell of diesel fumes makes me want to puke. Personally, I'm not at all in favor of diesel, but maybe that's because I've been spoiled for so many years with my A4s, both of which have never failed me. They're quiet, do not smell, and pretty economical to run.
Most people are disgusted by the smell of diesel exhaust, although, I can't say I've ever notice it from a genset running on another boat in the anchorage. That's a new one to me. Noise complaints are more common. Ironically, the exhaust from a gasoline engine is entirely more toxic. In fact, the levels of carbon monoxide in diesel would be difficult to reach lethal concentrations, while we all know of that serious risk in gasoline exhaust.

Still, inboard gensets are pricey. In my case, I know there are some creature comforts that my wife would start drifting away from boating, if we gave back. Oddly enough, she would push back in the shoulder seasons, without heat, more than she does in summer air conditioning. Having hot water in 20 mins from the electric heater is pretty important, especially when at anchorage.
4 Weeks Ago 11:33 AM
travlineasy
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

After more than a half century of being married, I'm thoroughly convinced that the only way I could make my wife happy aboard a boat is if I purchased her a small cruise ship. She refuses to go on an over-nighter anymore, says she's too old and it's too hard for her to get around on the Morgan. i stopped asking her to go with me on day sails, too.

As for the diesel genset, they are very expensive, and if you have ever anchored downwind of one, the smell of diesel fumes makes me want to puke. Personally, I'm not at all in favor of diesel, but maybe that's because I've been spoiled for so many years with my A4s, both of which have never failed me. They're quiet, do not smell, and pretty economical to run.

Yesterday, I met up with my son and his fiance at Fairlee Creek, located in the Chesapeake's upper reaches. She had cooked a great tasting pot roast at home, refrigerated it and needed to heat it up. She used my microwave oven, a 750-watt appliance that is connected to my 4-T105 house battery system via a 1,500-Watt inverter. She heated three dishes separately, a total of 9 minutes. WOW! They came out piping hot, but it sure did suck down a lot of battery. I was amazed at how long it took to recharge them while motor sailing home yesterday evening.

The main reason I installed the inverter was for my wife's C-pap machine and the flat screen TV - the microwave oven was an afterthought. I wouldn't even consider using an inverter to run an AC unit, but it can be done. My solution for the AC was to construct a swamp cooler using a 72 mm computer fan and a cooler chest filled with ice. Works great, but a bit on the damp side at times. That 72 mm computer fan only draws .04 amps when running full blast and moving lots of air. Plus, it has four tiny, blue LED lights that serve as night lights in the cabin.



For those of you that take along TV dinners, which many of us do for convenience sake, I developed an easy, relatively fast way of preparing them without a microwave. Merely place about an inch of water in the bottom of either a frying pan or larger sauce pan, or better yet, a pressure cooker, remove the film, fire up the stove, place the dinner in the bottom of the pan, put on the lid and in 10 minutes or less you have a steaming hot TV dinner. I even made a TV dinner lifter from a length of brazing wire so you don't burn your hands in the process of removing dinner from the pot.



All the best,

Gary
4 Weeks Ago 07:42 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

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Originally Posted by Don0190 View Post
and the $$$$$$$$
That too, when compared to a Honda 2kw.

However, we are talking about marrying it up with a 16k air conditioner and surge controller, so the OP isn't trying to cruise on pennies either. Still, it's thousands more, for sure. Maybe a used genset to save a few boat bucks.

Since the reported purpose is to make his wife happy, there is an awful lot more to having an onboard generator that will help. Suddenly, all 110v appliances are fair game. Not to mention, it's safer to use the onboard diesel supply, rather than carrying supplemental gasoline and worrying out exhaust fumes from a portable running on deck. Quieter for your neighbors too.
4 Weeks Ago 06:53 AM
Don0190
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Nothing beats an installed diesel genset, if you have the room for one.
and the $$$$$$$$
4 Weeks Ago 03:29 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

Nothing beats an installed diesel genset, if you have the room for one.
4 Weeks Ago 08:03 PM
alanr77
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

I've been looking around at gen set combos along with marine ac and other A/C appliances. After reading this thread, the first thing that comes to mind is reserve capacity. When you set up a system, is it wise to run that system up to 90-95% of it's rated capacity continuously and expect flawless service over time? Question not a statement. My "this might not be the best idea indicator" goes off in my head when I see this. I too am looking at 16000 to 18000 BTU systems. I can't seem to make the numbers work with the Honda 2000i and have a comfortable reserve capacity regarding output.
4 Weeks Ago 10:38 PM
travlineasy
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

I just checked out the make and model of my AC/heat pump. It's a Mermaid 12CHP-L, which is 12,000 BTU cooling, 14,000 BTU heating. Because it's an older model, the surge current when it starts is quite high, especially on the heat mode. I think that's why the Honda 2000i was struggling a bit. In the heat mode, the heat coils come on first, then the compressor kicks in, which is a real kick to the current draw.

Today, I checked the cooling time when the cabin temperature was 82 degrees inside. On average it took about 4 minutes per degree to cool the cabin to 70 degrees. I can live with that.

All the best,

Gary
4 Weeks Ago 02:43 PM
Melrna
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

My Honda 2000 runs my Pompanette 16000 BTU AC just fine. Will run about 3 hours per internal tank. Eco switch must be off. Not a real big fan of Dometic products. Bad customer service, bad AC units and won't' honor their warranty. Catalina manufacturing won't have anything do with any Dometic products either.
07-31-2015 05:49 PM
Maine Sail
Re: Honda eu2000i and air conditioning

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Originally Posted by Don0190 View Post
And yet many many many people have posted here and on that "other" site than they run their 16k unit just fine on the Honda.
My customers EU2000 was not capable of running his Cruise Air 16K BTU for more than a few minutes and this was after a soft start cap had been installed. In his case the total draw of the isolated AC only circuit could not be handled by his EU2000 for long periods. I have no doubt 16K BTU AC's can run on an EU2000, I have some that can, and based on Cruise Air specs it should have, but some may not.

My own EU2000 is only capable of about 12.2A continuous in 80Fand will not meet Honda's specs. This owner had read on the Internet that an EU2000 could run his AC and in his case it could not. All my Fluke did is to confirm why it could not.
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