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09-22-2010 08:47 PM
MedSailor
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MedSailor—

would point out that if you use a sink to dispose of urine, it would be considered an MSD... By definition and law, an MSD is a Marine Sanitation Device... and anything used to handle human waste is an MSD. A bucket is an MSD if you pee or poo in it...
Incorrect SD. I have actually READ the CFRs (code of federal regularions, ie the law that the coast guard enforses) on this topic. The terminology they use is that a MSD is a "device designed to transport or store waste." The sink, or bucket doesn't qualify. If you decide to use it as such (while offshore or in cadada)then so be it, you're using a bucket not an MSD. It's the word "designed" that is critical. Here is the CFR:

33CFR
§ 159.3 Definitions Marine sanitation device and device includes any equipment for installation on board a vessel which is designed to receive, retain, treat, or discharge sewage, and any process to treat such sewage.

It kind of reminds me of how everyone at work goes around saying that the HIPPA law doesn't let you do this or that. Only one of the doctors I work with has actually read the law....
Medsailor
09-21-2010 09:12 PM
sailingdog MedSailor—

would point out that if you use a sink to dispose of urine, it would be considered an MSD... By definition and law, an MSD is a Marine Sanitation Device... and anything used to handle human waste is an MSD. A bucket is an MSD if you pee or poo in it...
09-21-2010 07:55 PM
MedSailor Have had a nature's head for 1.5 years or so now. It's great. Not as nice as a shore side flush toilet but MUCH better than a holding tank. Didn't like the peat moss instead use coconut bricks. Much better and they don't come with bugs!

I think the nature's head is better for a few reasons not the least of which is customer service. I called once when I was first using it and immediately the owner and designer was on the phone with some great tips. He reccomended switching to coocnut fiber and INSISTED on next day airmailing me some coconut fiber bricks. That cost him to the tune of $40 in shipping but he wanted to be SURE we were happy. Now that's service!

Whichever one you buy, get a spare pee bottle.

Also if you add an extra sink in the corner of your little room that you (hopefully) don't use for washing hands it makes for a convenient and descreet place to empty your pee bottles without offending your neighbors or making you go out in the middle of the night in the rain. This is of course only for use offshore or canada. Peeing in the water (or emptying pee down the sink) is illegal in the USA. A sink, however, is NOT an MSD and is not required to be padlocked closed etc while travelling in the USA... ;-)

Medsailor
09-20-2010 04:31 PM
funjohnson Why hasn't someone come out with a lower priced version. It seems like this is a pretty simple plastic device that could be made much cheaper. I would put one in my boat for around $500, but the $900 that both are selling for seems too much.

Do you get any deals on these at the boat shows?
09-20-2010 10:04 AM
Pendle Thanks to all who reponded. Most informative, think we'll go with one.
08-17-2010 09:25 AM
MSter Is'nt there an old superstition about bananas on a boat?....brings bad luck...er, or maybe just fruit flies.......
08-16-2010 08:47 AM
genieskip This will be my third season with and AirHead and I also would never go back to a holding tank horror. The only problem is I have to be careful about ripe bananas. They bring fruit flies and and when the bananas are no longer there the flies head for the head. I'm making a little locker for bananas with a fine mesh to keep the little critters locked up and that should take care of the problem.
08-16-2010 07:52 AM
RonRelyea
Agree with Gary ...

I've already weighed in on the "other" compost toilet thread here, but I'll cast my vote again here ...

installed a Nature's Head in the spring before launching. Used it all summer (two weeks continuous with two people onboard and me mostly live-aboard weekends).

I wouldn't revert to a standard holding tank / marine setup if someone were to give it to me and install it for free ... just my personal 2 cents ...
08-16-2010 06:10 AM
preservedkillick Second season with a Nature's Head. Not 100% perfect, but the issues are very easy to deal with. I'm happy with it.
08-15-2010 09:56 PM
GilStump We liveaboard with our nature's head. 2 thumbs up! We use dry coconut peat. Works great and its renewable unlike peat moss.
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