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07-09-2013 08:10 PM
tdw
Re: Help on import duty to Australia

Boat definitely needs to be at least 50% owned by Australian citizen.

Not sure about the survey business but it sounds about right.

AMSA take credit card payments either online, in person or over the telephone.
07-09-2013 12:03 PM
shanedennis
Re: Help on import duty to Australia

We recently went through the Australian rego. The cost was about AUD$1250.

AMSA is very helpful but will not answer too many stupid questions and do everything by the book. I am pretty sure the boat needs to be at least 50% owned by an Australian citizen.

Regarding paying duty, I read somewhere you can opt for a survey if you bought the boat more than two years ago. Anyone done this?

How do you pay the import duty and how much time do you have to pay it? Can you use a credit card, for example? We will not have Australian bank accounts until after arrival.
04-12-2011 08:08 PM
Classic30 Given the way currency rates are fluctuating right now, as a UK registered boat, would you be better off (if you can handle it) getting the boat delivered to Singapore or Malaysia and aim to sail to Darwin via Bali once you get the paperwork and final arrangements made?

Just a thought..
04-12-2011 06:06 PM
tdw
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Originally Posted by graemefromdownunder View Post
How can I register boat in Australia (say Qld) when she is resident in UK? At what point do I pay duty / gst - at time of registration or when I arrive?

Can you clarify this for me? We own a Hanse 461, bought second-hand in UK 2009, I have dual nationality my wife UK. Boat is registered in UK Small Ships register.
You can register a foregn vessel as an Australian Registered Ship (ARS) from anywhere in the world. Simply go on line to the AMSA website (www.amsa.gov.au/). They will take you through the whole process. It will take a certain amount of time as they require original docs in some areas but overall it should not be all that painful.

One thing I am not 100% certain about is whether your ARS needs to be wholly or just majority owned by Australian citizen. If majority you are OK , you just have to convince your good lady wife that she now only owns 48% of your ARS and not a majority as she undoubtedly thinks. OTOH if your ARS has to be 100% Oz owned then you will need to become sole owner of your ARS.

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I was advised that Aussie customs calculate freight cost from last port of call, so if we stop at Fiji before arriving Qld then it is the cost of that leg. I haven't been able to find out whether they charge duty/gst on the price we paid (£146,000) at the exchange rate at the time we arrive in Aus (say $1.6 = £1) or its equivalent at the time we purchased (£2.3 = £1). It would certainly help to know what we will be up for when we arrive as it is certain Custom's won't take a post-dated cheque?
I think you are ill advised re the freight issue. My business imports from Europe and I can assure you freight component for GST purposes is for entire journey not simply from last port.

Duty is payable on price paid plus gst if under 12 months ownership. If over 12 months then customs will concoct a valuation for import duty and gst purposes based on value of AUD at time of import. A freight component will be added for gst purposes. If you were to allow a worst case scenario of realistic value (from their perspective not yours) plus freight (if shipped commercially) at currency valuation (at IMT/TT rate which is lower than official) then add 5% duty and then add 10% GST you should be well covered. Yes you do pay gst on customs duty.

Currency - Today the AUD is worth GBP.6637 official but in reality IMT/TT rate is only GBP.6217.
04-12-2011 03:38 PM
delite Be sure to be honest with the price you paid. Custom agents often look on-line and find what price a boat was advertised for sale at. To good of a deal and they are likely to use their own price.
04-12-2011 02:58 PM
graemefromdownunder
Importing our Yacht into Australia

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Originally Posted by SimonV View Post
Before you leave the country in which you bought the boat you must have the boat registered as an Australian ship. There is no way around this, unless you have duel citizen ship with the country where you got it. If you donít the boat may be arrested at the first foreign port of call. Registration will set you back $799.
How can I register boat in Australia (say Qld) when she is resident in UK? At what point do I pay duty / gst - at time of registration or when I arrive?

Can you clarify this for me? We own a Hanse 461, bought second-hand in UK 2009, I have dual nationality my wife UK. Boat is registered in UK Small Ships register.

I was advised that Aussie customs calculate freight cost from last port of call, so if we stop at Fiji before arriving Qld then it is the cost of that leg. I haven't been able to find out whether they charge duty/gst on the price we paid (£146,000) at the exchange rate at the time we arrive in Aus (say $1.6 = £1) or its equivalent at the time we purchased (£2.3 = £1). It would certainly help to know what we will be up for when we arrive as it is certain Custom's won't take a post-dated cheque?
08-22-2010 07:09 PM
Classic30
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Originally Posted by tdw View Post
The difficulty has always been in registering an older boat that has never been registered previously. Theoretically you need to have docs going back to the original builder but I do believe there is a way around this. I looked into it when we bought Raven as one of the boats we were looking at was not a registered ship.
In a similar train to what Simon says, it actually isn't all that difficult over here - and, yes, fortunately the AMSA Shipping Registration people are very friendly and helpful.

I know because we came unstuck registering Bungoona because the PPO (previous-previous owner) moved to Queensland without telling AMSA (an offence under law) and sold it to the PO without the Registration Certificate.. In the end, with both the PO and PPO dead and buried, we had to cancel 50 years of history and pay $799 to re-register... but I'm getting off track.

All you need to do is get a Builders' Certificate from the builder (there will usually be one) and/or have the boat measured by a Marine Surveyor, be able to show a "Contract of Sale" document signed by the PO and then sign a Stat Dec declaring you are the legal owner and another declaring you've got the name, port etc marked as per the regs, all witnessed by a JP.

Given that ANY vessel entering or leaving Australian waters must be registered, it's not in their interests to make it TOO difficult to do..


On a side note: It's actually illegal in this country to fly the Red Ensign without being a Registered Ship. If ever you see some fancy new stinkpot roaring though the mooring field flying the Red Ensign to impress their friends, check to see if their name and port appears in the AMSA list - AMSA will happily book them if it doesn't!!..
08-20-2010 08:29 PM
SimonV If the boat has US coast guard documentation, the person selling you the boat has to have the documentation cancelled, they then hand you a document from the coast guard with all the details for the vessel stating Us Documentation is cancelled and you attach this to your AMSA Registration application.
08-20-2010 07:28 PM
tdw
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Originally Posted by rmeador View Post
I'm a noob, so take with a grain of salt, but I'm fairly sure this is not true. I've heard a couple of times that the US Coast Guard only keeps records for the most recent two names/owners of a vessel. If it has had more than that, you may be SOL. State registration with the US may go back further, and there may be tax records or such... Anyways, this is besides the point because the USA isn't involved in the OP's transaction anyways.
You may well correct.

I'd think though that exsting US registration would be sufficient to register as an Australian vessel.

The difficulty has always been in registering an older boat that has never been registered previously. Theoretically you need to have docs going back to the original builder but I do believe there is a way around this. I looked into it when we bought Raven as one of the boats we were looking at was not a registered ship.
08-20-2010 05:57 PM
rmeador
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Originally Posted by tdw View Post
Chall....if the boat is already registered previous owners will be available from the registrar. I know this is the case down here and in UK and any Commonwealth or ex Commonwealth countries, I'm presuming it is the same in the USA
I'm a noob, so take with a grain of salt, but I'm fairly sure this is not true. I've heard a couple of times that the US Coast Guard only keeps records for the most recent two names/owners of a vessel. If it has had more than that, you may be SOL. State registration with the US may go back further, and there may be tax records or such... Anyways, this is besides the point because the USA isn't involved in the OP's transaction anyways.
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