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09-15-2010 08:27 AM
EJO somebody earlier in this thread mentioned $1/mile for delivery Captain hire, is that really a good rule of thumb? I assume plus expenses.
I would have paid that for an 80 mile trip (12 hrs) in 34 deg. F weather earlier this year.

So was a boat bought and did a captain teach him/her and when is the trip to Hawaii?
09-01-2010 03:22 PM
nemier Martness,
You buy the boat & I'll (plus Admiral) will take you.
PM me before you buy the boat! Obviously it must past my personal seaworthy muster, but we can discuss this at your leisure.

Originally Posted by Martness View Post
My sailing experience is limited to an introductory sailing course and a few sailing jaunts that reaffirm that I have sea legs and appreciate the expanse of the ocean. It's been years since my last sail but now I want to buy a sail boat, hire a captain, and sail to Hawaii from San Francisco, learning more about sailing along the way. I'd like suggestions on open water boats that are easy to sail and more apt to forgive when given poor instructions. Here are a few that are for sale nearby that I'm looking at: Morgan 382, 38 feet, yr 1978. A 1999 Beneteau 411, 42 ft long. A pearson 365, and a hunter 3800. Feel free to suggest other boats.

I also want to hire a patient, laid back, knowledgeable captain for a month or so for the journey to Hawaii. If anyone one has any recommendations of captains; what I should expect to pay for a month of instructional delivery; or what to look for in a captain for such a trip, I would appreciate your input.

Thanks for your time.

09-01-2010 03:01 PM
Sailing to Hawaii with an Instructional Captain

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08-31-2010 03:26 PM
rgscpat Ah, maybe the crew jumped ship because the boat you were delivering didn't have a pizza stone on board to get the crust just right.

Seriously, it's way disappointing that supposedly experienced sailors were so ineffective, clueless, dangerous, and unable to get the concept of following the captain's directions. I guess no amount of interviewing or references can substitute for sailing with people and even then some quirks will only emerge on a longer passage or in more stressful situations.

Seasickness in crew probably can't be avoided since everyone is different about this and even some really good, experienced sailors can have "issues", especially early on at sea.
08-31-2010 06:30 AM
Cap'n -- were the crew worth what they were paid?
Nope, I'd sent them $1,000 to cover $400 worth of travel expenses, bought them $150 worth of food that I wouldn't touch with a stick (I don't eat frozen pizza). And I arranged their transport home when they disembarked at the nearest port.
08-30-2010 11:03 PM
crew and skippers

Cap'n -- were the crew worth what they were paid?

Invention I've though of for green-around-the-gills ocean crew -- a funnel and hose run to a cockpit drain. Could serve multiple purposes.

For the original poster, the generic advice would be to do smaller steps first and then maybe use a captain/instructor as the final "grad course" for ocean sailing.
08-30-2010 08:29 PM
capttb Just so happens that 2 weeks ago I bought a boat in San Francisco, last Monday I came out the Golden Gate on the noon slack. One of my "crew" was wearing a scopalamine patch, (clue #1) perfect weather and his head is in a bucket already, three times before we reach Pacifica. The other one is useless & dangerous, but doesn't know it, tries to talk me into tacking IN FRONT of an inbound freighter. Got his own charts and GPS but can't navigate or read the charts, sees an oil rig on the chartplotter and is convinced it's a freighter. When I tell him it's an electronic chart and anything on it AIN'T moving he's unconvinced. Freakin' trip from hell, 30 knots around Pt. Conception and it's ONLY me at the helm all night.
Both men are "older" and have been sailing for decades, both have said they have removed sailing around the world from their bucket lists.
Make a couple good long trips before you make any long term plans or buy a boat.
A competent Captain is going to be much more expensive, AND WORTH, more than you can probably pay. You want a REALLY good friend who is a VERY good captain. Delivery Captains get $1.00 a mile, if the boat ain't moving at top speed he's losing money.
08-30-2010 11:13 AM
SimonV The big problem with what you want is not many delivery skippers will travel that distance with a novice owner. He/she will, if they have any sence bring along an extra body; one who they can trust when things go pair shaped. And on any trip of the distance you are thinking, there will be one or two occurances.
08-30-2010 10:05 AM
questionsquestions One possibility is to hire a "teaching" captain who can bring along additional crew members/students with some experience who want additional bluewater miles and experience, and will split the costs. Make it a teaching cruise. Otherwise, one captain and one inexperienced owner for a couple of weeks--- not good.
08-30-2010 07:25 AM
sailingdog Sorry Smacky, I believe the OP wanted someone that could teach him... I'm pretty sure you're not qualified.

Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
Heh-heh. Maybe.

I'm just curious about what the costs actually are. Independently wealthy seems like an attractive starting place.
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