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Topic Review (Newest First)
09-14-2010 10:14 PM
Guero
09-13-2010 06:52 PM
carl762 Yup.
09-11-2010 08:55 AM
dinodino I think the original poster is off his meds. What a ridiculous set of terms for using his dinghy!
09-10-2010 08:39 PM
AllThumbs Thriller, check your PM's
09-10-2010 02:43 PM
jldooley Fantastic: if this offer is still available i'd love to accept.

I have just one request. I require the wine fed ex'd to me overnight (I must have it by monday) as a good faith deposit (pm me for an address) don't worry if this mailing address is not anywhere near where you want the boat. I don't drink and you'll be sending it to my in-laws. Oh yea, i live in Jersey right on the Seaside Park with a beautiful free dock right near my house. so fogetabout the package location, trust me.
09-10-2010 02:39 PM
zz4gta
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Originally Posted by ThrillerDillerSchwill View Post
The trailer would only be used for taking the boat out, putting it in, and for storage. The boat is already on the water at Barnegat Bay. I would sail her to her new location. you got it now. good. By the way, if you have a boat lift in your yard, that would be super, because then I could easily paint her bottom in the spring. Let me guess, somebody out there is going to make a comment about painting bottoms, right?
lmao, so you're only going to use the trailer for taking the boat out of the water, putting it in, and for storage. That's pretty much all you use a trailer for in the first place.

And a yard with a boat lift would be good, yes it would, so would ice water in Hell but that ain't gunna happen either.
09-10-2010 02:32 PM
cardiacpaul I'm still wonderin' about the sex thing.

Is it that I can't have sex with YOUR girlfriend on the boat, is that the problem?

What about that wine... If I can have the wine, can I get your girlfriend drunk? Then have sex with her, what... off the boat? That wouldn't be against the rules would it? It is your wine after all.
09-10-2010 02:31 PM
arf145 Came into this thread late, but man, I enjoyed it! TDS, I can't imagine anyone signing up for that. OK, maybe someone whose life has just been so free and easy up to now that they feel the need of a big bucket of obligation and rules to balance things out.
09-10-2010 01:43 PM
mpickering
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Originally Posted by ThrillerDillerSchwill View Post
The trailer would only be used for taking the boat out, putting it in, and for storage. The boat is already on the water at Barnegat Bay. I would sail her to her new location. you got it now. good.
Answers my questions, Thriller. Thanks.

To you, your request may seem reasonable given the state of the economy. But look at it from the other side. For example, requesting a third party provide a suitable trailer. That's not an insignificant expense. I've known people to throw away boats just to get the trailers they are sitting on. Why should I provide a trailer for a boat that I don't own? Especially since you'll be sailing her into the slip. Why should I absorb that additional expense just to provide you with a slip for your boat?

You may think use of the boat is a fair trade. Even if I don't have a boat in my slip, it wouldn't look that fair to me having to outlay money to satisfy your requirements. The cost of acquiring even a used trailer would likely exceed what it would cost to charter a comparable daysailer for the number of hours that it would probably be used. $80 per four hours is such a rate in my area for a 16 foot Flying Scot. Price out the cost of a good used or new trailer for a 16 foot daysailer and compare. That's a lot of charters I can be doing. Probably more than the entire month of October, at least.

Do you see the point I'm trying to make? And others here?

It isn't the offer that's the problem; it's your expectations. Perhaps someone is out there who might agree to your terms. If you find that person, come here and prove us all wrong. There's no harm in trying to find an arrangement that will work in your favor. But it has to work in the other person's as well and you may think that offering them the use of the boat is fair, but from a value perspective, it isn't. The other party is expected to pay a lot upfront for that use. Direct costs for a trailer and indirect costs in terms of the value of in-water dockage that you would otherwise have to pay for somewhere else.

I just think you're placing way too much value on the use of the boat. Especially when for that class of boat with a little effort, I can find sailing trips out cheap or free if I'm willing to travel a bit.

I think if you lower your expectations you might have better luck. For example, removing the demand for a trailer and/or dry storage. If you're expecting someone to provide you a slip rent-free (lots of waterfront owners rent their slips out if they don't own boats or have sufficient space for several), you shouldn't expect much in return. You shouldn't expect to find a "Sugar Slip Daddy".

Best of luck in your search.

Matt
09-10-2010 01:12 PM
carl762 Guess it takes all kinds. $1,000s worth of work for an afternoon of sailing. WTF?

Good luck on your 16 footer offer dude. Personally I think it's a crap deal. Taking the sex and partying out of the equation cinched it for me.
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