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06-17-2011 12:19 PM
credence
Interesting market...

Oceannester you are partially correct. The inventory for boats in the 45-51 foot category for the low 100's has gone done over the last few years, but the "features" of the boats on the market have gone up. Boats in the 42 foot class have seriously dropped in price though, like regularly less than $90k.. I suspect the opportunity to purchase a C42 at heavily discounted prices is cutting into the potential buyers of Lady Di.
05-25-2011 05:37 AM
Oceannester
oceannester

It's an interesting market out there these days. Far less inventory when the market is down and the "miracle" deals are few and far between. In the $100-$125,000.00 range in a 42'-46' class sailing vessel, we've looked at about eveything available on the West Coast and you can really count the options as far as good value, performance and price on 2 fingers. -Art
05-25-2011 05:33 AM
Oceannester
oceannester

Drdeyates...

Pretty quiet since May of 2010. Did you sell your Morgan 45? In the market.
05-23-2011 10:23 PM
jstarkus
Regarding Lady Di

I own "Lady Di" and wanted to address the comments made. RE: Undetectable leaks above the water line - There are NONE. I had this boat in for bottom paint a year ago and everything was checked. There were no reports of any leaks by the trained eyes of San Diego Shipyard. You are welcome to visit and I will give you a hose to put water where you like to try to disprove what I am saying.

Regarding the use of multiple brokers: Exposure, plain and simple. In these times of fewer buyers, yacht brokers are natrualy going to sell what they have listed first if they can. I don't fault them, they are trying to make a living and 10% is better than 5% commission. I had the boat listed exclusively at first and the boat was not show that often. Open listings provide more potential buyers and have nothing to do with if there is anything wrong with the boat.
02-08-2011 05:22 PM
smitchells01
DrDeYates

DrDeYates, we also keep a boat on San Francisco Bay. I was reading your previous posts about your Morgan 45. We would love to talk to you about your experience with your Morgan 45 on the Bay. Please e-mail us at truckeesailor@hotmail.com. Do you still have your boat? Thank you.
02-08-2011 05:14 PM
smitchells01
Truckee Sailor

We are looking at a Morgan 45 cc to purchase, early 90's, and would love feedback on performance and how she sails off shore. We also looked at Tayanas and love those boats as well, but not sure how they sail to wind with their weight and a cutaway keel. Some of the seasoned sailors we talk to say make sure we can sail off a lee shore and head to wind. Any comments from anyone familiar with these boats would be greatly appreciated. We are looking for a live aboard to take to Mexico and beyond.
09-14-2010 03:44 PM
Cruisingdad
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Originally Posted by 2Sheets2TheWind View Post
Thanks, Brian. I've been trying to narrow the searches to mid 1990s or so, and around 45 feet. I've checked out some of the Tayanas on line, as well as Gulfstars. Look like good boats (I've read more about the Tayanas over the last few years, but not a whole lot), but many are 80s vintage and/or in the 42 range. But it's OK...I'm still a few years from moving on board and heading south for a couple of years exploring the Caribe and Central America with the wife. Her three requirements: A separate shower area with at least a bench so she can shave her legs easier, 47 feet long (45 will be OK...she won't notice), and not a fixer upper.

Agree on the Irwins. Ted seemed to do things on the cheaper side, although they have a strong following among the owners of 38s and Mark IIs that I've met. I have a Citation which is a good basic boat for the Chesapeake bay, but it is everything the reviews say about it is true. When you get a good blow of 12 or 15 knots, you wish it felt more solid. It's a light boat, so days with 6 to 8 knots aren't wasted days like the heavier ones. It's just a day sailor for us.

Thanks, again. Any advice on boats you have is greatly appreciated. Sounds like you have a lot of experience.
For a run to S America and beyond, I would probably limit my list to the Tayana 42 of the ones mentioned. I know that boat well. THat is what my father has and I have been extensively involved with it. I also know the others pretty well - most certainly the Catalina. I would be more concerned about when the wind is well beyond 15 knots than when it is 6-8, though you will get a lot of that too. But the latter is more life threatening (if not flat uncomfortable) if you do not have a boat that can handle heavy weather.

Also, there is a LOT of storage on the 42. It has surpsingly more storage than many boats in its class. And teh 42, taken care of, will be a solid boat.

I do not understand why you would arbitrarily set a length requirement of 47 feet or so. If it is just you and your wife (maybe even two kids), the 42 is a perfect boat. The longer teh boat, the more expensive to buy and maintain. Plus, the more difficult to dock (notice I did not say sail). I would take the Tayana 42 over the Morgan 45 any day of the week. Hands down. No comparrison. Also of interest to you is it is easy to work on and system runs are easy. It has a lot of fuel and a lot of water. She has a very sea kindly motion and is a cutter rig which is my preference for offshore work (though I personally own a sloop). You can get her as a center or aft cockpit (we have the aft). She weighs in dry around 38000 lbs.

And yes... she has a seperate shower with stool so your wife can shave her legs...

Brian

PS For more performance, but still a solid blue water boat, also consider the Passport 40.
09-14-2010 03:15 PM
2Sheets2TheWind Thanks, Brian. I've been trying to narrow the searches to mid 1990s or so, and around 45 feet. I've checked out some of the Tayanas on line, as well as Gulfstars. Look like good boats (I've read more about the Tayanas over the last few years, but not a whole lot), but many are 80s vintage and/or in the 42 range. But it's OK...I'm still a few years from moving on board and heading south for a couple of years exploring the Caribe and Central America with the wife. Her three requirements: A separate shower area with at least a bench so she can shave her legs easier, 47 feet long (45 will be OK...she won't notice), and not a fixer upper.

Agree on the Irwins. Ted seemed to do things on the cheaper side, although they have a strong following among the owners of 38s and Mark IIs that I've met. I have a Citation which is a good basic boat for the Chesapeake bay, but it is everything the reviews say about it is true. When you get a good blow of 12 or 15 knots, you wish it felt more solid. It's a light boat, so days with 6 to 8 knots aren't wasted days like the heavier ones. It's just a day sailor for us.

Thanks, again. Any advice on boats you have is greatly appreciated. Sounds like you have a lot of experience.
09-14-2010 09:15 AM
Cruisingdad If I were considering a Morgan 45, I would also seriously consider a Gulfstar, a Tayana 42, or a Catalina 42. The Tayana is a super boat and I believe they are very undervalued. The C42 has a very passionate following and you will find them everywhere including a very large owners group. Gulfstars are flat out built like tanks, though depending on whether it was made on a Monday or Friday may make a big difference in the boat. On teh cheaper side, you could consider an old Irwin too... but tehy are really hit-miss, with some of tehm junk and some of them really undervalued. Be very cautious about blisters on the Irwins.

I am not negative on the Morgan 45's. I have been on a couple. It just happened the ones I was on were rode hard and put up wet and it turned me off of them a bit. I am sure there are super examples too... I just have never seen one - and boats like the Tayana and C42's are better values.

These are my opinions only and not those as a Tech editor.

Brian
09-14-2010 09:05 AM
2Sheets2TheWind
Morgan 45

I thought about leaks from portholes after I replied yesterday...didn't think about deck joints. Portholes or rigging could be fixed without much trouble (I say that like mine has gone so smoothly) as long as there isn't any sustained damage, but deck joints are something I know nothing about. I can't even find a diagram of what type of keel the 45s have. I'm an east coaster, and there's a Cat-Morgan for sale at a boat yard in Annapolis. I'll be up there next month for the sailboat show, and I'll try and check it out. I don't think it's a 45 as the header on the listing says...it says 44 once you get on it's website, and there seems to be a lot more than a foot of difference int he 45s and 44s.
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