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12-07-2010 11:39 AM
walterzoy
Winter Storage - Cold causing freezing engine and waterlines!

Well it has been blowing 30 MPH for the last couple of days and no sign of letting up. With the temps in the mid 20's at night, I am glad that I got anti-freeze in the engine and fresh water supply lines to other night!

I thought that I was going to get one last sail in for the season. I am sure glad that Brian at Old Bay Marina talked me into hauling out last week before the arctic weather arrived.

Was down to the boat today and there were sailors trying in thaw out their water lines and get their engines started to winterize them!

The marina is STILL hauling out boats for the winter - and when they pressure wash the bottom - the pressurer washer is making snow like the snow machines at a ski resort!

Walter - Catalina 30
Old Bay Marina - Baltimore
10-24-2010 10:46 PM
walterzoy
PropSpeed free with Winter Haulout

Well it looks like the winter storage shootout of Chesapeake Bay is really paying off!

I just made my mind up to sign up for winter storage at a Baltimore area marina when they offered me a free application of Prop Speed to my propellor if I signed for winter haul out this season. I must pay $75.00 for the yard to sand and prep the prop and shaft - but the Prop Speed and labor to apply is free!

Considering West Marine charges $199.00 for a small kit of Prop Speed I am going to let them apply the coating and give it a try.

Everyone on Sailnet is telling me that Prop Speed is the only coating that keeps barnacles and marine growth off of propellors. I tried painting the prop with outdrive paint (expensive) without luck - even used a hard bottom paint like Trinidad - and it came off after only a few months.

Walter -- Catalina 30 sailboat Baltimore
10-05-2010 01:49 PM
Janssen
Winter Storage - Who has best prices & service on Chesapeake

Hello Midlife Sailor,
As to the best prices on Winter Storage around the Chesapeake – you are correct that Deltaville, Virginia has some of the best prices, but Deltaville is too far south for most of us bay sailors who live in PA, Baltimore , or around the DC Beltway. What I would save in haul-out fees, would not cover the gas and time spent on such a long drive south, it is a lovely area though!

From Annapolis north to Baltimore, I have been checking out winter storage rates and you are again correct that most of the marinas offering low rates are rundown dumps, or if they are not rundown, they only want powerboats or do not know how to haul and block sailboats – some of the marina operators are down-right hostile and call us “blow-boaters” or worse !

So, it looks like Old Bay Marina, at the entrance to the Patapsco, still comes in this season with a reasonable haul-out package of $25.00 per foot for Fall haul-out, bottom wash, block, stands, and the spring launch.

There is a price war for winter haul-outs going on from the Magothy north to Middle River to downtown Baltimore, offering package deals on hauling and bottom painting, but Old Bay always seems to beat them by several hundred dollars and they are a sailboat marina, and do take a lot of time blocking your boat. Brian, the marina operator, even makes me go into my cockpit and pour water into it at blocking time, to make sure the cockpit drains well so he will not get a call from me in January that the boat is blocked at the wrong pitch! If I block my boat on its in-water waterline, it will not drain well while on land? – so we always pour water into the cockpit and fine tune the pitch/angle so snow and rainwater drains well.

As a nice incentive, they also let use their wholesale marine trade accounts so you can buy marina supplies at their wholesale rate, while the other marinas must mark-up some just to pay the clerk in the marina store. I have saved hundreds of dollars on my boat shopping trips by using their wholesale account.

Like most marina operators, Brian the owner - can be cantankerous, but in the end he will save you money, do a good job hauling out your boat, and will try his best to solve any questions you have about your boat or engine and share a microbrew with you. All marina operators are an odd lot – then again –so are us sailors, and I would not have it any different!

Dr. George Janssen C&C 35 "Nordic Nights"
docked at Old Bay Marina outside of Baltimore, MD
09-05-2010 09:11 AM
PalmettoSailor It doesn't get any cheaper than Delatville. There are places further north that are "as cheap" but they tend to either be just as remote as Deltaville or pretty run down.

I've hauled out at Deltaville Boatyard and Schroder's Yacht Systems and would use either again with first choice going to Schroder's.

This year I'll most likely haul at HHN, but as others have suggested I'll plan to only be on land from late Dec to Mar.
09-04-2010 11:03 AM
Janssen
Winter Storage still far off!

That time of the year again - Hurricanes, cooler weather and great sailing winds, and time to think about going south or putting her on the hard in November!

Already at my marina - Old Bay - they are hauling out boats for Winter Storage - kids going back to school - hurricane season, or whatever the reason - this is the best time to be sailing on Chesapeake Bay - what a loss of good sailing to be hauled out so early!!!

Thank goodness hurricane Earl missed the Chesapeake. At my marina several owners had their boats hauled out in fear of the storm. My marina made it through Isabel - so I was not worried about Earl. Winter Storage can wait until Thanksgiving!

Dr. George Janssen C&C 35 "Nordic Nights"
docked at Old Bay Marina outside of Baltimore, MD
01-03-2010 11:27 AM
4arch George, thanks for the compliments! We bought her in October after she really caught our eye on an overnight trip to Rock Hall. Been getting a lot of compliments ever since which is nice since sometimes my head gets so wrapped up in all the projects I need to do it becomes easy to focus just on the flaws. Now that the holidays are over I'm hoping to be there a lot on weekends this winter and spring getting her ready to splash in April.

I agree with you about bringing the fuel in by jerry can and thanks for the tip about the WM discount.
01-01-2010 09:57 PM
Janssen
Winter Storage @ Old Road Bay - Patapsco River

I just got back to Baltimore after taking the boat down to the Keys (Boot Key) for the winter. I see the Lippincott 30 - Spindrift - on the hard in Old Bay Marina's storage field! Very nice boat with clean classic lines.

I agree with you that Old Road Bay (once you understand the dog-legged entrance channel) is quick and easy to get out on the bay sailing.

The fact that none of the Old Road Bay area marinas sell diesel fuel is not much of a concern because I buy my fuel at the truck stop on North Point Road and transport it in my 5 gal. Jerry can. As a sailboater, I only burn a few cans of fuel per season and like the fresh clean fuel from the truck stop.

As to service at Old Bay Marina, they use SKS Marine for engine work and I can say I am very happy with the engine service and fair prices. You can use any engine repair service you like as long as they have insurance.

For fiberglass, shaft & prop repair, woodworking and custom parts there are several European craftsmen working out of Old Bay. Brian used to build fiberglass boats and he is very helpful in solving problems and saving the boat owner money. If he does not know the answer - he will direct you to someone who does. Old Bay Marina also lets its customers use its wholesale number to buy wholesale West Marine. I save hundreds of dollars yearly on bottom paint and supplies!!!

George
12-11-2009 10:45 AM
bloodhunter
LaTrappe creek

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Originally Posted by JohnRPollard View Post
Jeff,

Have you ever been up there? I've always wondered what the depths were like -- I assume they are further up La Trappe Creek? Or are they off another creek?
They are way up LaTrappe creek they will be on your port. Haven't been up there for a few years but the depth was ariound 7 feet at the marina. Don't know what has been done since. Was very nice and quiet up there last time we went
12-10-2009 06:10 PM
4arch I'm also at Old Bay Marina this year for the first time. Brian has been very helpful and accommodating, the prices are hard to beat, and the place is better maintained than other low price marinas I've seen. The guys there were much more careful in lifting my boat than some of the larger yards and did a more thorough power wash. Definitely a DIY or BYO kind of place but I don't see that as a bad thing. The location is great - very convenient to the Bay and close to Baltimore by water or car. Has the easy access of Rock Creek without the prices. Even though it might not seam like it, protection is pretty decent, even from northeast winds. Downsides are no pumpout and no gas/diesel at Old Bay or anywhere else on Old Road Bay.
11-29-2009 02:50 AM
chef2sail Dr George,

We have seen you out a few times this season We are hoping to squeeze a few more sails out before we winterize this years also. This is our every other year we leave the boat in the water.

Dave
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