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10-12-2010 04:50 PM
SanDiegoChip
Strataglass Protective Cleaner

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maine Sail View Post
Chip,

Please do yourself a big favor and stop using Pledge. It is very nasty stuff on eisenglass or optically treated eisenglass/vinyl.
Ok, thanks ,I will pick some Strataglass Protective Cleaner #301 up!
10-12-2010 01:39 AM
JiffyLube
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Originally Posted by sailor50 View Post
In the south, I have found that a cover over the whole dodger works best than individual window covers for a boat that is worth less than $40k to $30k. Lasts about 10 years if sewn with proper thread, treated with Thompson's Watersealer (less per ounce than Aquatite), and is considerably less expensive than the big boy windows which are impractical on a pocket cruiser.
I've used Thomson's on some things masonary, but I wouldn't think using it on canvas is a great idea because it remains slightly tacky on certain materials...might collect dust and dirt.
10-11-2010 07:18 PM
Maine Sail
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoChip View Post
We clean the windows every time we sail and I have started to use Pledge on them to keep them nice.

Chip

Chip,

Please do yourself a big favor and stop using Pledge. It is very nasty stuff on eisenglass or optically treated eisenglass/vinyl.

It contains: Silicone, Isoparaffinic Hydrocarbon Solvent (basically Naptha), Propane, Isobutane, & butane. The silicones and paraffins actually attract dust and dirt and the silicone aided by the solvents can permanently penetrate the vinyl and make it foggy.

Use Imar Strataglass Protective Cleaner #301. You won't be disappointed. I have been recommending this stuff since long before Practical Sailor crowned it king of window treatments..

10-11-2010 07:17 PM
sailor50 In the south, I have found that a cover over the whole dodger works best than individual window covers for a boat that is worth less than $40k to $30k. Lasts about 10 years if sewn with proper thread, treated with Thompson's Watersealer (less per ounce than Aquatite), and is considerably less expensive than the big boy windows which are impractical on a pocket cruiser.
10-11-2010 06:44 PM
SanDiegoChip On our Catalina 30 we had a full dodger cover and the dodger and windows held up great. The leather on the top of the dodger cracked. The cover was hard to store or I will say took up room.
On our new 36’ boat we have a solar panel on top of the dodger so we had individual covers made. We can see the bird poop get in between the windows and panels. They do keep out the sun and give privacy and are easy to store. We clean the windows every time we sail and I have started to use Pledge on them to keep them nice. Seems to work. Definitely getting dirt in-between the windows and covers. We will need to flush them when we wash the boat. Of course then we get water spots.
The full cover also kept the bird poop on the cover not the dodger.
We have a sewing machine and replace the windows when needed.

Chip
10-11-2010 06:09 PM
tdw Interesting re the covers....going to save me some dosh...I like that.

Thanks Maine.

Latest quote I've received for covers is quoting a Japanese product for the clears that they refer to as Vye Back. Anyone know the name ? I can find no reference on the net.
10-11-2010 01:00 AM
olson34
Different Dodgers - Different Locales

We have the less expensive and less desirable clear plastic window panels. We have a full "drop over" Sunbrella cover that was done when the dodger was built in '95.
I can see a noticeable difference in how our canvas and windows are holding up over the seasons compared to boats around me with no covers.

One difference between us and probably most of you is that our moorage (and all the others along the river where we are located) is directly under the final approach to PDX. Lots of dirt, exhaust, and fuel residues in our air.
Kinda noisy at times, especially when the AF jets are practicing...


So, I would weigh in on the merits of a full cover...

"YMMV"

L
10-10-2010 10:59 PM
JiffyLube I like the felt linned covers that go over the Strataglass on our dodger, as it acts as a sun shield. I've been in the sun to many years, so I'm looking for shade all the time. When I hose down the boat I hit the dodger window covers to rinse them off, and once a year I take all the canvas home for a good cleaning and waterproofing. Most definitely using a good product to clean the Strataglass is a must, but I admit I don't clean is as often as I should.
10-10-2010 01:43 PM
Maine Sail
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Originally Posted by pdqaltair View Post

I have used Strataglass specific products; the PO left me with a supply, and they do help. But what are we to do? I spend too much time on maintenance and too little sailing already.
Keeping up with my windows is one of the easiest chores. Takes me about 5 minutes to clean and treat them. I always use a new microfiber rag and warm water to rinse then wipe away any polution or debris. The rag is always turned after each wipe so as not to scratch with the grit it picks up. I then apply Imar Strataglass proctective cleaner and let it dry. That's it....
10-10-2010 01:26 PM
pdqaltair Mainsail, that's impressive and worth the time. I like to see where I'm going.

I have had good luck with covers on lexan windows over many years, but it is a much harder product. Additionally, micro scratches can be buffed out every few years; not an option on dodger windows.

But the reality is that many of use cannot get to the boat every week or every other week, or even every month in the winter. I agree whole heartedly that covers would be a bad idea; rolling them up with any dirt causes scratches and any flapping bit can cause scratches.

I have used Strataglass specific products; the PO left me with a supply, and they do help. But what are we to do? I spend too much time on maintenance and too little sailing already.
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