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10-15-2010 08:41 AM
sailingdog
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If you're coming up from South Florida, you will not believe how cold you will be, sailing in November. You will want ALL the ski clothes you have from your trip to Aspen last February, and you will be shocked to find out that they are NOT ENOUGH. In the damp at water level, cold permeates everything and everybody much more than at high, dry altitudes. Even though you are heading South, you can sometimes get snow or freezing rain on deck before Thanksgiving.
Hell, we get that in New England before Halloween many years...

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Mittens that fit over fleece gloves might be a good idea. Boots that can fit over several pairs of socks. Long undies, pants, and ski pants. T-shirt, shirt, two sweaters, and a parka. Then you'll want foul weather gear on top to keep out the wet, and several watch caps, so that one's always dry. Snorkeling goggles may enable you to see in driving rain if you miscall a front, or catch a squall. Even motoring downwind can be cold, and there's no trailside restaurant to warm you up in the middle of a four hour watch. If you pick the right routes and weather windows, you may not need all the gear, but staying warm will make good weather even nicer.
Fleece is your friend when sailing in the northeast late in the season. Avoid any cotton or other natural material clothes unless they're made of wool or silk.

A good dodger and bimini are your friends when sailing late in the season. Many boats can have a full cockpit enclosure, which is worth getting if sailing during the winter. It was the difference between being in a fleece jacket and being bundled up like an eskimo on a delivery I did last December.
10-15-2010 12:50 AM
sailormanmiami wow that cold weather sounds brutal !
i'm getting a much clearer picture now

thanks to everyone for the great info and suggestions!
10-13-2010 09:32 PM
paulk If you're coming up from South Florida, you will not believe how cold you will be, sailing in November. You will want ALL the ski clothes you have from your trip to Aspen last February, and you will be shocked to find out that they are NOT ENOUGH. In the damp at water level, cold permeates everything and everybody much more than at high, dry altitudes. Even though you are heading South, you can sometimes get snow or freezing rain on deck before Thanksgiving. Mittens that fit over fleece gloves might be a good idea. Boots that can fit over several pairs of socks. Long undies, pants, and ski pants. T-shirt, shirt, two sweaters, and a parka. Then you'll want foul weather gear on top to keep out the wet, and several watch caps, so that one's always dry. Snorkeling goggles may enable you to see in driving rain if you miscall a front, or catch a squall. Even motoring downwind can be cold, and there's no trailside restaurant to warm you up in the middle of a four hour watch. If you pick the right routes and weather windows, you may not need all the gear, but staying warm will make good weather even nicer.
10-13-2010 09:08 PM
sailingdog LOL... yeah, boats don't sink on the hard...

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Darn it, you're right! Not sure what I was thinking. I think I got it backwards.

Markel insurance.

Regards,
Brad
10-13-2010 08:51 PM
Bene505
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I find that hard to believe. Hauling a boat leaves the boat at much less risk, so it is typically far less expensive to have a layup period than it would to have the boat in the water year round, especially when you're up north. What insurance company do you have???
Darn it, you're right! Not sure what I was thinking. I think I got it backwards.

Markel insurance.

Regards,
Brad
10-13-2010 07:41 PM
sailingdog I find that hard to believe. Hauling a boat leaves the boat at much less risk, so it is typically far less expensive to have a layup period than it would to have the boat in the water year round, especially when you're up north. What insurance company do you have???
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Didn't realize that, since ours doesn't require a layup period. Good information.

By the way, our insurance is cheaper (66%) to keep her in the water in the winter. I'm planning to haul her every other year, perhaps more.

Regards,
Brad
10-13-2010 07:10 PM
Bene505
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Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
Whether you can do this also depends on your insurance, as most insurance policies require a layup or haulout period. You'd have to check with your insurance policy.
Didn't realize that, since ours doesn't require a layup period. Good information.

By the way, our insurance is cheaper (66%) to keep her in the water in the winter. I'm planning to haul her every other year, perhaps more.

Regards,
Brad
10-13-2010 02:12 PM
sailingdog Whether you can do this also depends on your insurance, as most insurance policies require a layup or haulout period. You'd have to check with your insurance policy.
10-13-2010 10:35 AM
ceddavis Sounds like a large boat for the NJ portion of the ICW. It is notoriously prone to shoaling.

I moved a C&C 24 from LI sound around Cape May to Delaware City, DE in the last month. From NYC to Cape May will be mainly offshore. From NYC to Manasequan Inlet is offshore (there is not ICW) and from Atlantic City to Cape May I would would not trust the IW. We went offshore there as well.

Manasaquen inlet to AC is the only portion which you could do on the inside.

Get a cruisng guide which covers NJ, and bridges in particular. Given the weather this time of year, you want to know the good inlets. There are precious few along the Jersey shore.


Chuck
10-13-2010 10:19 AM
tommays Fri
W winds 20 to 25 kt with gusts up to 35 kt...increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 45 kt in the afternoon. Seas 3 to 5 ft. Rain likely...mainly in the morning with vsby 1 to 3 nm

.Fri Night
W winds 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 45 kt...becoming NW 20 to 25 kt with gusts up to 35 kt after midnight. Seas 4 to 6 ft. A chance of showers in the evening.

Sat
NW winds 20 to 25 kt with gusts up to 35 kt...diminishing to 15 to 20 kt after midnight. Seas subsiding to 2 to 4 ft.

This weekends pretty normal weather for the time of year

IT will be followed by some tame stuff BUT it shows the need to plan on some time at the dock waiting
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