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11-01-2010 04:18 PM
Freshbreeze Looks like we are all on about the same scammer - a 'Capt. James Morris'

Well, this thread is available for all to view, and for the scammers to see that we are aware of the scam format!
10-19-2010 08:35 AM
sailingdog Not all countries have laws against asking the DOB of an applicant. There is never any legitimate reason to be asking for the mother's maiden name. There may be a legitimate reason to ask the DOB... but I can't think of a good one off hand.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyp View Post
You can not ask a person's age or DOB in a job interview or application. This is a violates the discrimination of age laws in the USA. Never reply to an email that is sent from a generic email account. Even some bogus email accounts appear legit and then are forwarded to a different address.

JimmyP
10-19-2010 12:19 AM
lenochka1111
spam

Dear *****,
We appreciate your interest in working with us and we have open an
application file with reference number 0020/UK/OCT/SEA/6912.We have
gone through your CV and We found the post of Bar Waitress for you
with salary amount of 4,500 GB Pounds per month.The destination is
always from London to France,Ireland,Belgium,Norway,Wales and USA.

Benefit:
The company will provide free accommodation ,Insurance (NIN) ,Flight
Ticket,Tax Free and many more benefit you will see in your Appointment
Letter.

Working Schedule:
Working Days & time: Monday to Friday: 8:00 AM - 6:00PM (GMT)
Saturday & Sunday: 10:00 Am - 4:00 PM (GMT)
Shift Time: Morning and Night.
Contract Period: 2 Years contract and it can be extended if only you
wish to remain with our company
Vacation : 3 Month Vacation Interval for you to visit your love ones
and family back home
As a notice of acceptance of job offer , we shall send you appointment
and invitation letter for you to sign and return the sign copy back to
us for record purpose . so therefore kindly let us know if you are
satisfy with the salary rate above in order for us to proceed further.

We await to hear from you ASAP.

Regards
Capt. Wilson Scott


so what is the rison of that spam????
10-01-2010 10:07 AM
jimmyp You can not ask a person's age or DOB in a job interview or application. This is a violates the discrimination of age laws in the USA. Never reply to an email that is sent from a generic email account. Even some bogus email accounts appear legit and then are forwarded to a different address.

JimmyP
10-01-2010 03:44 AM
wolyus84 THANK YOU sailingdog. i knew it. its too good to be true. ive been wanting to work on a cruise ship. oh well.. better luck next time!! thanks again sailingdog.. thank you for your suggestions and help!! may that scammer die!!
09-30-2010 08:45 AM
sailingdog It is very likely the work of a scammer. I'd point out that the name, address and date of birth, combined with the mother's maiden name is generally enough for them to steal your identity in many cases. The mother's maiden name is a typical security question for many financial institutions, and there IS NO LEGITIMATE NEED FOR IT IN A JOB APPLICATION.

As for the typical security questions that financial institutions ask you to answer, I would recommend that you answer them with something other than the logical answer to the question. For instance, if you are asked "What was the name of your first pet?" Answer with the type or breed of dog it was instead of its name. The name of your pet is often easily discovered. As long as you answer the question the same way each time, the fact that the answer isn't "correct" for the question doesn't affect anything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolyus84 View Post
..

*Full Name:
*Mother Full Name:
*Present Location:
*Nationality
*Date of Birth :
*Phone Number:

We await your immediate response to this mail.
Regards
Capt. Wilson Scott


**** so what do you think guys?!
09-30-2010 06:58 AM
wolyus84 Freshbreeze i also received the same mail that you posted here. ill post what i have received here below.

***** Dear (i have to remove my name for privacy reasons.)
We want to use this opportunity in congratulating you in advance for accepting to join our company. How soon do you want to come or can you make it down here within the next two week as we are urgently in need of you to arrive here as soon as possible .If you know it is possible for you to arrive here within the next two weeks , kindly find attached to this mail job interview questionnaire for you to fill and submit back to us so that it will speed up the process of your appointment letter.

We advice you to keep record of your application reference number and we hope you are not attached to any company presently so that you will focus on your job application as we are highly in need of you to arrive here soon, if not kindly let us know now before you sign any contract agreement with us.If yes we suggest that you start writing your resignation now to whom ever you are working for, so that you can pay more attention to your newly job ,if only you are really serious about this job offer..

*Full Name:
*Mother Full Name:
*Present Location:
*Nationality
*Date of Birth :
*Phone Number:

We await your immediate response to this mail.
Regards
Capt. Wilson Scott


**** so what do you think guys?!
09-30-2010 06:48 AM
wolyus84
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freshbreeze View Post
Here is 2 examples I have from 2 seemingly different people, but both relating to the same job!


I have removed my name for privacy reasons.

1:

Dear ******* ,
Thanks so much for the mail... Kindly let us know how you want to
have the interview .. We can send to your email.. Job Interview
Questionnaire for you to answer all the question . Or if you are in
London already.. you can tell us where to send our official car to
come and pick you up.

Awaiting your urgent reply

Capt. Wilson Scott



2:

SeaBourn Yacht Hotel
5 Gainsford Street,
SE1 2NE,London,
United Kingdom

Dear *******
We want to use this opportunity in congratulating you in advance for
accepting to join our company. How soon do you want to come or can you
make it down here within the next two week as we are urgently in need
of you to arrive here as soon as possible .If you know it is possible
for you to arrive here within the next two weeks , kindly re-confirm
the following details for the processing of your appointment and
invitation letter.

*Full Name:
*Contact Address
*Passport Photo face:
*Date of Birth :
*Phone Number

Kindly provide us the details listed above for us to proceed further
and kindly keep record of your application reference number and we
hope you are not attached to any company presently so that you will
focus on your job application as we are highly in need of you to
arrive here soon, if not kindly let us know now before you sign any
contract agreement with us.If yes we suggest that you start writing
your resignation now to whom ever you are working for, so that you can
pay more attention to your newly job ,if only you are really serious
about this job offer..

We await your immediate response to this mail

Management
Capt. James Morris



If you was wondering, yes they both knew my name! But check the grammar used...!

Sailingdog - do these look similar to your examples?


===> I'm new here. i decided to join here because i also received the same mail that Freshbreeze received. i'll post the mail that i also received here at the bottom. so here goes: READ BELLOW. thanks.



Dear (i have to remove my name for some reasons)
We want to use this opportunity in congratulating you in advance for accepting to join our company. How soon do you want to come or can you make it down here within the next two week as we are urgently in need of you to arrive here as soon as possible .If you know it is possible for you to arrive here within the next two weeks , kindly find attached to this mail job interview questionnaire for you to fill and submit back to us so that it will speed up the process of your appointment letter.

We advice you to keep record of your application reference number and we hope you are not attached to any company presently so that you will focus on your job application as we are highly in need of you to arrive here soon, if not kindly let us know now before you sign any contract agreement with us.If yes we suggest that you start writing your resignation now to whom ever you are working for, so that you can pay more attention to your newly job ,if only you are really serious about this job offer..

*Full Name:
*Mother Full Name:
*Present Location:
*Nationality
*Date of Birth :
*Phone Number:

We await your immediate response to this mail.
Regards
Capt. Wilson Scott


===> what can you say guys?!
08-27-2010 07:58 AM
sailingdog One warning sign is that they're not using corporate domain e-mail addresses. Generally, when dealing with a company, the reply-to e-mail addresses should be corporate domain e-mail addresses, not free internet e-mail accounts.

Getting someone's basic information, like Date of Birth, address, Passport or Social Security numbers are the first steps to stealing their identity. Anyone asking for such information in an UNSOLICITED e-mail, whether it is for a bank transfer (nigerian scams), for supposed employment (like the example above), or something else, should be a huge warning sign.

Unfortunately, a lot of job listing sites don't do a very good job of vetting the people posting job openings, and they are a fertile ground for scammers.

When I get back to my office, I can post a few good examples of scam e-mails and what to look for.
08-26-2010 10:09 PM
Freshbreeze Here is 2 examples I have from 2 seemingly different people, but both relating to the same job!


I have removed my name for privacy reasons.

1:

Dear ******* ,
Thanks so much for the mail... Kindly let us know how you want to
have the interview .. We can send to your email.. Job Interview
Questionnaire for you to answer all the question . Or if you are in
London already.. you can tell us where to send our official car to
come and pick you up.

Awaiting your urgent reply

Capt. Wilson Scott

From - capt.wilson.scott@gmail.com

2:

SeaBourn Yacht Hotel
5 Gainsford Street,
SE1 2NE,London,
United Kingdom

Dear *******
We want to use this opportunity in congratulating you in advance for
accepting to join our company. How soon do you want to come or can you
make it down here within the next two week as we are urgently in need
of you to arrive here as soon as possible .If you know it is possible
for you to arrive here within the next two weeks , kindly re-confirm
the following details for the processing of your appointment and
invitation letter.

*Full Name:
*Contact Address
*Passport Photo face:
*Date of Birth :
*Phone Number

Kindly provide us the details listed above for us to proceed further
and kindly keep record of your application reference number and we
hope you are not attached to any company presently so that you will
focus on your job application as we are highly in need of you to
arrive here soon, if not kindly let us know now before you sign any
contract agreement with us.If yes we suggest that you start writing
your resignation now to whom ever you are working for, so that you can
pay more attention to your newly job ,if only you are really serious
about this job offer..

We await your immediate response to this mail

Management
Capt. James Morris

From - jamesmorris28@live.com


If you was wondering, yes they both knew my name! But check the grammar used...!

Sailingdog - do these look similar to your examples?
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