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11-08-2010 09:33 PM
jetdrvr393 It probably is a low risk option, I'm just kinda scared to pull the plate.

I like your idea of the loop, I could probably do something like that, my halyards are in the mast so I would only need it for reef lines, cunningham, vang and outhaul.
11-05-2010 08:53 AM
BigZ I think it's a very low risk option, and mounting standup blocks is adding more holes. But there is another way that might work.

Before I purchased and installed my mast plate I wanted to arrange the organizers and clutches, etc., so I tied a loop of 3/8 sta set with several blocks on it around the mast base just so I could lay things out. Then I kept forgetting to buy a mast plate over the winters and ended up using this loop for several years. It worked fine for lines like cunningham, outhaul, and vang, never riding up the mast or chafing. I didn't use it for halyards though, so not sure if it'd work in that case, but it might be worth a shot. It wasn't a real pretty installation, but it was cheap and did work until I finally bought the plate.
11-05-2010 08:08 AM
jetdrvr393 I'm not sure I want to go down this road. The boat is a 1979 and I know that S2's have a reputation for being well built but I'm not convinced that the reward outweighs the risk of something bad happening when I would pull the plate. We sailed the boat all summer without the lines run the way I want and did just fine. I am planning on upgrading to a bigger boat within 2 years and would hate to have a major issue over this.
Are there any other options other than the mast plate?
11-04-2010 11:18 PM
BigZ Should be no problem taking them out. Try one and see what happens. I think it would withdraw pretty easily. The worst that could happen is you find damp wood on the threads. If that happens, well, that's a new thread.

Not sure what S2 used to do when they built these boats, but they have a pretty good rep on most of their boats. The screws are probably coarse thread wood-type screws and are most likely screwed into a solid fiberglass mass. The screws just keep the plate from moving fore/aft, there's not too much strain on them really. If you pull them all, just re-bed the plates to keep water from seeping into the holes.
11-04-2010 07:32 PM
jetdrvr393
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Not familiar with the S2 you have, but it sounds like you have a hinged maststep which allows for easy raising and lowering the mast. If so, you could put the plate mentioned earlier beneath the existing plate on the deck. Just have to lower the mast, pull the pin to release the plates, unscrew the plate from the deck, copy and drill the hole pattern to the new plate, remount the new plate and old deck plate, then raise the mast.
The mast plate is probably the best way to approach your problem. But standup blocks with proper backing plates would probably also work ok on a boat this size. It's just more holes in the deck.
Yes, thats exactly what I have. There are 4 large bolts in the plate. I know this will sound like a stupid question but can I take them out? What are they threaded into? I don't want to pull them out then be in for a surprise with what I find underneath.
11-04-2010 05:53 PM
sailingdog As pointed out previously, using a plate under your existing mast step would be the simplest way to do this, and lead to the fewest holes in the cabintop. Most cabintops are cored, and having fewer holes is generally a good idea.

On my boat, I have the following lines led aft:

1) Main Halyard
2) Spinnaker Halyard
3) Outhaul
4) Topping Lift
5,6) First reef, tack and clew lines
7,8) Second reef, tack and clew lines
9, 10) Third reef, tack and clew lines
11) Boom brake

This allows me to raise, reef, lower the mainsail from the cockpit.
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Originally Posted by jetdrvr393 View Post
That would work great but I'm not sure how I would put it on the boat. There is a plate on the boat and one on the base of the mast that fit together when the mast is up. I have pics but can't seem to post them.
Could I attach stand up blocks to the deck right next to the mast plate I have?
11-04-2010 10:18 AM
Yorksailor Donīt forget that to reef from the cockpit you need single line reefing or tack downhauls on the tack reefing cringles. I had tack downhauls on my Corsair
F31 and everything was very easy and they eliminated the high friction/resistance you often get with single line reefing.
11-03-2010 11:09 PM
BigZ
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Originally Posted by jetdrvr393 View Post
That would work great but I'm not sure how I would put it on the boat. There is a plate on the boat and one on the base of the mast that fit together when the mast is up. I have pics but can't seem to post them.
Could I attach stand up blocks to the deck right next to the mast plate I have?
Not familiar with the S2 you have, but it sounds like you have a hinged maststep which allows for easy raising and lowering the mast. If so, you could put the plate mentioned earlier beneath the existing plate on the deck. Just have to lower the mast, pull the pin to release the plates, unscrew the plate from the deck, copy and drill the hole pattern to the new plate, remount the new plate and old deck plate, then raise the mast.
The mast plate is probably the best way to approach your problem. But standup blocks with proper backing plates would probably also work ok on a boat this size. It's just more holes in the deck.
11-03-2010 10:51 PM
mitiempo The advantage of the plates dog posted pics of is they do not put any load on the cabin top.
11-03-2010 10:03 PM
RedtheBear Sailingdog is dead on. The mast step plate to mount turning blocks out to deck house mounted ckeck block(s) back to the clutches foreward of your cleats and wench(s) P&S. Different colored lines for main and jib for you non-sailing friends-crew. Simple, safe, low maintanence, eash to work or to tell someone what to do.
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