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01-06-2014 01:14 PM
Re: Pearson Wanderer - Deal or No Deal?

Oh very nice...I just moved out of that area to Cape May New Jersey...We are working on getting Chasing Gwion ready to do small charters here for warmer weather.
01-06-2014 01:10 PM
Re: Pearson Wanderer - Deal or No Deal?

Hey there, Faiththompson. My wife and I have a1966 Wanderer on the Potomac. Hull number 5. We've had it a year and she's one of the prettiest boats at the marina. Always turns heads. Sails great and goes almost anywhere.
01-06-2014 12:40 PM
Re: Pearson Wanderer - Deal or No Deal?

Originally Posted by laHolland View Post
I need some quick feedback to make sure I'm not making a crazy mistake. We put a deposit on a '67 Pearson Wanderer (30 foot, shoal draft w/centerboard). Original A4, runs well w/good compression, owner was diligent about maintenance, barrier coated, new aluminum spreaders, pretty good sails, awlgrip topsides, deck needs repainting, cabin is clean/dry and shows signs of good maintenance habits, like most boats this age probably has some moisture in deck but not soft and no obvious signs of deck leakage. Overall a boat that you can tell was built in the 60s but that isn't necessarily a bad thing: like if the Brady Bunch had a boat. We kind of dig it.

Would you pay $6600 for this boat? My concern is mostly with it's age and that it has such an old engine. We couldn't afford to replace it for at least a few more years.
Hey laholland...what did you end up doing about the Pearson? My boyfriend and I have a 1966...he sailed from Annapolis to Cape May in November, If you would like to save a bit on shipping let us know. I am sure that you have already decided on what to do but either way I am curious to know what happened?
01-01-2011 04:10 PM
laHolland I thought the same thing, but after 20+ hours of trawling the net over the past month I haven't found anything around here that would work, without even considering price. Maybe it's just the season though. I get the feeling that around here, the fall (and maybe the spring?) is the best time for bargain boat shopping.
01-01-2011 12:21 PM
Ajax_MD laHolland,

I refuse to believe that you won't find an acceptable replacement that fits your budget. The economy is in the crapper, and not really getting any better and it's winter time, best time for shopping. If anything, your choices will continue to expand for a while.

The loss of your beautiful boat is a tragedy, but you'll find a good replacement.

In 2010, a friend of mine bought a Tartan 30 in fine shape for less than you paid for the Pearson. I paid $1800 for a solid Coronado 25 with a new outboard.

Keep looking, and hang in there.
12-31-2010 10:06 AM
laHolland Mirari, My intention has not been to put down the people at Portland Riverside Marina. I don't blame them for the accident -- obviously they didn't intend for this to happen. They are, as you say, generally a good boatyard to deal with, very reasonably priced and friendly, which is why we were repeat customers even though there is a boatyard much closer to our home. The boatyard manager is a very kindhearted person (and a good manager) and the staff are all excellent at what they do.

That said, the owners have offered us no form of compensation, which is disappointing. In fact, they haven't communicated with us at all. I don't know if they are legally required to do so (thank you hellosailor for the links), but it feels like it would be the right (and professional) thing to do. I'm not saying we expect a pile of cash, just something.. a token.. anything really. Yes, we did not as yet receive a bill for unloading the boat from the trailer or for the short time the boat was stored, but the boatyard has not explicitly offered to waive the fee, so there is the possibility that they will attempt to bill us. Our boat was placed in the "campground" section (along with several other boats) because we were told at the time that the yard was full, but that they would make room for us (which we appreciated). There were already several boats in this section, and they regularly store boats in this area (our first boat, which we bought from the marina, was stored here).

I looked at the big tree, and thought to myself "that looks dangerous" but I don't know if there were any outward signs of decay. It was an old tree, and I figured if it lasted this long, it must be OK (wrong), and of course I didn't really have a choice anyway. However, during the weeks after our boat was placed in the campground section, several other boats were placed in the main boatyard. Perhaps because they were bigger? I don't know.

We were loyal customers, and we had referred a couple other people to them as well. The boatyard is full and they are clearly having a good year. I would certainly fight back (legally) if they tried to charge us for the cost to remove their tree off of our boat. I'm sure the owners of the two other boats that were damaged would agree.

Yes, our insurance allowed us to recover the money we spent, but now we have no boat. The boat was a uniquely good deal - sold to us for under it's value because the previous owner needed to get rid of it before the season ended, and because he and his wife are very nice people who wanted the boat to go to a good home. It was in very good condition, the previous owner loved this boat and had taken very good care of it (when I told him about the accident he was heartbroken). Our four nephews (who are avid sailors) were very excited about the boat and one of them was so excited he drew a picture for us to hang in the boat. Needless to say they were very disappointed as well.

Yes, I know it's just a physical object, and yes, I'm very glad no one got hurt. But our financial (can't spend more than we spent on our crushed boat) and physical situation (must be shoal draft) will make it difficult to find a comparable boat (30', in good condition), and life is short.
12-30-2010 09:18 PM
billsull Sorry for your loss. However, now that you are back in the hunt, you may want to consider the early Tartan 34's in addition to the Wanderer. It will be tough to find one near the price you paid for the Wanderer, but they are more plentiful. There's a couple on YW with A4s asking $11 - 12K.
12-30-2010 06:18 PM
hellosailor Yard, yard's insurer...What it comes down to are the laws in CT. seems to say that CT puts the burden on the property owner to check on the health of their trees because healthy ones don't just fall down.

Barts Connecticut Tree Service - Part 2 includes a longer quote from the CT insurance department " The tree owner is legally liable for the damage only if his negligence caused the tree to fall. Otherwise, it is an “Act of God” which would be covered under the neighbor’s Section I Property Coverage of the homeowners policy.If the tree falls on your own house, damage to the house is covered. The insurance policy covers the cost to remove the tree from the house. "

So the only real question would be if there were obvious signs that the tree was unhealthy (split, rotted, dying?) and of course, whether the tree was on the marina's property.

A real gentlemen might step up, if the insured value didn't cover the boat, the sales tax, the transport expenses, and make laHolland entirely whole for that. And, perhaps, throw in something extra to compensate for the time and expense that the new search will entail.

Unless it was ruled an Act of God, in which case you send the bill to...The Pope? The Imam of Jerusalem? (Oh yeah, they're all representatives of The One God, until it comes time to pay the bills.)
12-30-2010 05:18 PM
Mirari Ms Holland, I’m glad this all worked out for you and you were fully covered. I’ve been silently following this posting as my boat is only a few boats away from the scene of the accident. It appeared to be a great little boat and I can understand your disappointment on losing this fine looking vessel. I noticed you mentioned the marina being Portland Riverside and also noted that their insurance was not covering anything. From the reactions of some of the others posting here your posting appeared to have put the yard in a less than favorable light. Some of the folks seem to think the yard owes you something. I think some clarifications are due here:
1. Part of the storage contract is that the boat owner MUST insure his or her's own vessel. This is pretty standard for winter contracts.
2. It was the yard’s insurance, not the yard that denied coverage. Had you not had insurance I can almost guarantee that that Riverside would make this right for you, not for legal reasons but because that’s the type of people they are (I’ve been a customer since 1985).
3. They normally don’t put boats in the area that yours was in but I understand they filled the yard up early this year and told you that but because you were a previous customer they would make an exception and find you a space.
4. I don’t know for sure but I’ll bet they didn’t charge you a dime for unloading your boat when it came into the yard or for any work they had to do in regards to this accident.
As you can no doubt tell I’m a very satisfied customer of Portland Riverside. Apart from their low storage rates my experience is they bend over backwards to accomadate their customers. They fully support the do it yourselfer and will accommodate you if you want to do something like spray paint your own boat by putting you in an appropriate area. They prices in the marine store beat West marine and Defender almost every time.
When a business wrongs a customer I’ll be the first to point a finger but at the same time when a business goes above and beyond I’ll be the first to praise them.
I hope you find a great new vessel to replace the one you just lost.
12-30-2010 12:48 PM
CalebD I'm glad to hear that you got your payment in a timely fashion.

About 10 years ago our boat chafed it's mooring pendant and was damaged enough that the insurance co. (BOATUS) deemed it a complete total loss (CTL). We ended up buying the boat back from them for $800 and received a check for the difference between the face value of the ins. minus the $800 and did the repairs ourselves.
It was nearly impossible to get insurance the next year. Most marine insurance applications have a question like: "Have you suffered a total loss in the last 3 years?" If you have then they likely will not insure you.
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