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12-25-2010 10:49 AM
ffiill Suggest you read Ocean Passage Making and landfalls-Rod Heikell et al;World Cruising Routes-Jimmy Cornell.They can be had from Alibris second hand for not alot of money.
I have never crossed an Ocean by boat but I know when the Hurricane seasons are N and S hemisphere;not to be in the wrong places at the wrong times;I have run the Panama canal on Google earth numerous times;and already I am familiar with major harbour entrances having read World pilots freely downloaded from NGA web site not forgetting freebe charts of the Pacific and NZ from Land Information New Zealand
Even now I could find my way into Mangonui harbor and to Russell in the Bay of Islands having studied the charts and seen them from the land.
One other major issue in my opinion is knowing the boat.
When I bought my current boat with a coastal trip of 200 miles ahead of her I was bothered that I was low on fuel with no guages to check and no where to fill up.So when the water pump in the indirect cooling seized luckily in a canal the day after hammering my way to shelter in a force 7 I was completely suprised and of course had no tools on board despite being quite capable of stripping an engine.As for the fuel I had about 60 gallons!!
Despite a competent survey I later found the eye in the end of the main boom and several shackles almost worn away!Likewise some of the ropes had seen better days and when I got in the canal where I needed long warps found I had none and had to tie shorter ones together.
Sometimes it can take several years of sailing(or a stormy Ocean passage) for a serious fault to show!
12-25-2010 09:48 AM
southerly100 Hey guys,

the inital post clearly mentions there is not much experience, so they are not expacting critics but suggestions. the essential ones have been mentioned already: check boat, experience handling, train wind conditions and boat behaviour up to 50-60 kts, that's all it in respect of physical high sea training. anything else like navigation, tactics, etc. can be read in books
and in the net.

I like those professionals who do not realize that the distance between Panama City and Galpagos is roughly 800 mls, which means in 5 days (good forcast period) they will have left the tropical storm path. So, what's wrong with their schedule?

One thing I know for sure, if they would invite me to joint, I would just jump on the next plane.

Merry Christmas to all of you,

Southerly
12-24-2010 03:44 PM
Omatako
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Originally Posted by Yorksailor View Post
Having taught RYA 'Day Sailor' for 2 seasons I can assure you it is no preparation for going off-shore. My wife does not like such inexperienced people to crew for us off-shore because we have to babysit them too much.

Many people do what you want to do and succeed but there are many failures and these are often due to lack of experience...Not knowing when hurricane season is might be an example of lack of experience.

Phil
Hey Phil

It's interesting how people's choices differ. I prefer to have someone with no experience at all and whose most important attribute is that they don't get seasick. I don't want someone with a half-jack of experience second guessing my every move. He/she can stay away. The crew on a voyage like this to me is just someone who does exactly what he/she is told and represents another pair of eyes while I sleep, nothing more.
12-24-2010 03:38 PM
Omatako
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Originally Posted by poopdeckpappy View Post
Pacific hurricane season runs June 1 - Nov 30
I suspect that's in your neck of the woods - in ours it starts in October/November and is pretty much done by March. The best sailing season in our part of the South Pacific is April to August. All the sailing rallies to Fiji, Tonga, Vanuatu, etc leave here end April to mid-may.
12-24-2010 02:30 PM
jackdale There some touches that can make the passage more comfortable and safe

Below

1) lee clothes so that you can get some sleep while heeled.
2) a galley harness to facilitate cooking and cleaning
3) make sure everything is secure: floorboards, gear, access under berths
4) sufficient handholds for getting around

On deck
1) jacklines tethers and harnesses
2) everything securely lashed

Medical
1) Be prepared for motion sickness
2) Everyone should trained in first aid as a minimum
3) a comprehensive offshore medical kits

Weather
1) set up a system for getting forecasts: SSB, Sat phone, etc..
2) be your own forecaster; watch the sky, wind and the baromter

Prepare for the worst; hope for the best.

I am sure folks can add others.
12-24-2010 02:06 PM
sailingdog Also, don't forget that a Panama canal crossing will cost at least $1500 by all recent reports.
12-24-2010 01:51 PM
chris_gee Think northern and southern hemispheres the hurricane season is different in each. That is you clear the northern by June and the Southern by December.
Agree day skipper is a minimal qualification. There are very good advanced courses. The actual sailing being mainly downwind is long but not difficult.
You do need however to be pretty self sufficient at maintenance and repairs. Two months is not long to get a boat ready. Almost inevitably it will require work and money to bring it up to standard as few are actually equipped for long distance sailing.
A test is to see how people go out of sight of land. Some freak out land being 500 or more miles away even if experienced coastal sailors.
12-24-2010 06:52 AM
Mcpsych Until you get to oz waters when cyclone season is nov to march ( I have put a big gap there most of them happen in Jan feb)
12-24-2010 06:08 AM
Minnewaska
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Originally Posted by TeMPuS2010 View Post
i have read conflicting info on hurricane season, some pages i have read say hurricane season is june to nov while others say that its nov to march. which one do i listen to?
National Hurricane Center

Scroll to mid of page for seasons. May 15 to Nov 30
12-24-2010 05:04 AM
TeMPuS2010 i have read conflicting info on hurricane season, some pages i have read say hurricane season is june to nov while others say that its nov to march. which one do i listen to?
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