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12-24-2010 11:05 AM
mccary
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Originally Posted by jaschrumpf View Post
I've left my 1975 Newport 28 in my slip at White Rocks since I bought her in 2007, only pulling out for a powerwash and general inspection in the spring.

Last winter when we got 30" of snow I nearly panicked, and drove my Honda Civic into the wilds of Pasadena down Fort Smallwood road to get to her and shovel her off. When I got there I couldn't even see where she was even an inch deeper in the water -- and my cockpit was full to the gun'ls.

Now I realize what a load she can handle, and if we get big snows again I know I can wait a couple of days for the plows to get around before heading over to shovel her out.
My 27 also lives in the water and last year was dramatic for sure. West river had several boats capsize from the added weight, mostly power boats. My boat was loaded down with the water line several inches under water. My boat is not at a marina, she lives at a private dock so I went down and used a snow blower to blaze a path, that took 2˝ hours to reach the boat and then cleaned off the 30+" of wet snow. I am hoping for the global warming to kick in this winter and keep her relatively snow/ice free although when I saw her on the 22nd she was iced in and that is not a happy sight. She was fine and had a dry bilge:-)
12-23-2010 03:53 PM
pdqaltair
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So, we finally find a disadvantage to those wide roomy decks -- more space for snow to accumulate. ;-)

Actually, this is the first time we've had to worry much about snow in or out of the water. Deltaville, just didn't get the accumulation you see around here. Even with the big storms last year they only got a few inches.
At the time I had a 1200-pound 27' x 14' cat (Stiletto), which resulted in a very high ratio of snow to boat. in fact, the snow plus rain no doubt weighed several times as much as the boat! An exceptional case, to be certain. But it illustrated the concentration of force on the blocks. A good blocking crew is worth something. I will add that the marina made it right.

Of course, I've never seen a cat blown off its blocks, sideways, only crushed and over charged.
12-23-2010 03:01 PM
jaschrumpf I've left my 1975 Newport 28 in my slip at White Rocks since I bought her in 2007, only pulling out for a powerwash and general inspection in the spring.

Last winter when we got 30" of snow I nearly panicked, and drove my Honda Civic into the wilds of Pasadena down Fort Smallwood road to get to her and shovel her off. When I got there I couldn't even see where she was even an inch deeper in the water -- and my cockpit was full to the gun'ls.

Now I realize what a load she can handle, and if we get big snows again I know I can wait a couple of days for the plows to get around before heading over to shovel her out.
12-23-2010 01:50 PM
PalmettoSailor
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The only signifigant winter damage I ever got was on the hard, when a heavy snow caused a block to dent the hull. In the water was always fine, so I respect your point. We haul briefly, every other year for the usual tasks, and only for about 2 weeks.

Perhaps I would'nt feel so strongly if I could not check on my boat every few weeks. But I like to sail all year, so in the water works best, even if I do freeze in for a few weeks.

I do respect that folks much further north in real cold have different issues.
So, we finally find a disadvantage to those wide roomy decks -- more space for snow to accumulate. ;-)

Actually, this is the first time we've had to worry much about snow in or out of the water. Deltaville, just didn't get the accumulation you see around here. Even with the big storms last year they only got a few inches.
12-23-2010 10:38 AM
pdqaltair
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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Mid, Glad you were able to accomplish getting out and winterizing. I spent the day winterizing also, and putting the custom cavas over Haleakula.

When we short haul in the spring its for 2 weeks...pleanty of time to polish, wax, do teak, redo the stuffing box etc. The bubbler we have takes care of any ice which may happen and the custom cover will dump the snow off of her whether on land, or in the water. To me it is inherently safer for the boat top be in the water, then on jack stands.

The move to leave her in is more than just monetary. A boat sitting on jack stands, with a 20 mph breeze going through its rigging and vibrating the mast transfers its energy where and how? The water is a better place than the six or 8 points the boat is held up by. Its ialso safe to work on the boat in the water as no need for climbing up ladders..etc. We have friends and livea boards who check on our boat next to us so no need to visit every weekend. If I was on jackstands,,,with a heavy snowfall...I would make a trip.

Our decision is not just financial, but also what puts less strain on the boat. The fewer times in the sling and the less time supported up in the air, the safer the boat is in my humble opinion.

Dave
The only signifigant winter damage I ever got was on the hard, when a heavy snow caused a block to dent the hull. In the water was always fine, so I respect your point. We haul briefly, every other year for the usual tasks, and only for about 2 weeks.

Perhaps I would'nt feel so strongly if I could not check on my boat every few weeks. But I like to sail all year, so in the water works best, even if I do freeze in for a few weeks.

I do respect that folks much further north in real cold have different issues.
12-23-2010 09:42 AM
PalmettoSailor I've been so busy with getting ready for the holidays I haven't had time to update, but the guys at HHN have Palmetto Moon hauled cleaned and blocked. I can't imagine how bad it must have been powerwashing the bottom in that cold, but they did it and below the waterline looks great.

I got a chance to take a closer look at the spot where I rubbed the dock on our Sept cruise and think I may be able to sand it before polishing and waxing and not have to try a gelcoat repair but that will have to wait for warmer weather. The bottom paint still looks pretty darn good so we'll just plan to do some touch up on that.

I still need to get the dodger down and put up tarps, but its gonna have to wait and it looks like we'll get more snow before I get around to it, but I'll get it done eventually.

BTW, We're stacked one row behind the beautiful Virgina Dare.

Bill
12-14-2010 02:39 PM
SVCarolena Oh, and just to add, here is to one mroe week before the days start getting longer, and three months before we start boating season 2011!
12-14-2010 02:38 PM
SVCarolena We are just off the Potomac and we stay in all winter. We winterize the head, pressure water and engine, but also use a bilge heater to keep the inside just above heating (one of the Extreme heaters designed for this). We also pull all the canvas, which this year is on its way to Sail Care. We do make a point of visiting her at least once a week to make sure bilge pump is working and the batteries are topped up. And because winterizing our engine is such a snap, we look forward to a relatively warm day in Dec/Jan/Feb to get out for a quick trip, even if just under power. Sadly, last year that day didn't come until spring. Over the past four years, I've only seen a thin coat of ice in our marina two times, and both times there was open water right around the hull. We are pretty much fresh water this far up river, but a regular current seems to keep things from freezing. Acutally, Occoquan bay is listed as an ice hole on the charts. anyway, would love to have it out this year for some projects, but for us the reall problem isn't financial, it is a lack of facilities on this part of the river that have the equipement, draft and space to pull and store a sailboat.
12-14-2010 09:17 AM
nickmerc When I was sailing out of Salem and Marblehead some boats came out but most stayed in the water. Many had bubblers some did not. Only occasionally do I remember the salt water freezing and that was in the areas where there was not much water movement like small inlets and canals.

Every boat in the water was covered. Too much snow possible to risk not covering.
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BlondyBusty
12-14-2010 08:55 AM
BubbleheadMd LOL, Dog you guys get a "special" kind of cold. I wonder if even a bubbler could keep your dock ice-free. Not just a haul-out, but storage in a boat house!
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