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01-15-2011 06:54 PM
Live-aboard friendly Marina Baltimore $2,400 Chesapeake Bay

I like having a few live-aboards at the marina where I keep my boat. If I forget to close a hatch or the wind comes up, I do not have to drive down to Baltimore from my home in York PA. I call one of the liveaboards and chances are they have already taken care of my concern!

I keep my boat at Old Bay Marina where the Chesapeake and the Patapsco meet, about an hour drive from York. The marina owner allows a small number of liveaboards and gives them a break on the slip rent and liveaboard fees by only charging them a flat-rate $2,400.00 per year.

The marina owner does a background check on future liveaboards to make sure that only respectable folks are living full time on their boats - he says that he does not want to turn the marina into a floating Gypsy camp!

Liveaboards have gotten a bad name because of a small precentage of bad apples. All of the liveaboards that I have met are very interesting, educated, and helpful folks.

If I were not so old, I would consider living on my boat - no more grass to cut, no more property taxes, and lot less stress and a fun lifestyle!

Walter - Catalina 30 docked @ Old Bay Marina - Baltimore
12-26-2010 08:39 PM
travlin-easy Thanks. I have to go to Giant tomorrow--I'll pick some up. As for weather under 50 degrees--NAH! Any temperature lower than my age is the dead of winter.


12-26-2010 07:42 PM
Sabreman Correction.

We use Cutter Skinsations; I just checked a bottle. We get it at the supermarket (Giant or Bloom in VA). Works well. What works best is any weather under 50 degrees.
12-26-2010 06:32 PM
travlin-easy I was told Avon Skin So Soft would work well on the flies--it didn't! The flies used it for basting sauce. Also tried several Deet repellents. They worked until you began to perspire, then the flies got even. I haven't tried Skintastic yet. Is it available locally?

12-26-2010 06:26 PM
Sabreman We use Skintastic to keep away the pests. Unfortunately, it doesn't keep away powerboaters

Once we were in Tangier and my wife walked the dog through the marshes. I saw her running down the dock yelling and swatting.. the flies had followed her and the dog back to the boat. I thanked her for bringing all the flies took the rest of the day to get rid of them.
12-26-2010 01:35 PM
travlin-easy While the middle bay (Point Lookout, Smith Point, Reedville, Tangier Sound) areas of the bay provide some fantastic sailing opportunities, they also hold the world's largest concentration of marsh flies, small, biting, black flies that will inflict lots of pain and draw blood with every bite.

12-26-2010 01:08 PM
Sabreman It is true that VA imposes Personal Property rates. However, the rates are not nearly as bad as some might think. We keep Victoria in Northumberland Co. The rate is $3.60 at a 40% assessment which for us is $540. Some counties use 100% assessment. IMO, the benefits of lower slip rental cost and relaxed atmosphere outweigh the higher slip rental cost of many parts of MD. But.....MD's one-time tax of 5% (of the fair market value) is pretty steep, but overall cheaper.

Regardless, it is easy to stay well under $5000 for slip rental.
12-26-2010 12:36 PM
RichH Be VERY careful when considering keeping a boat in Virginia ... as many of the counties impose draconian 'personal property taxes' on boats that are kept there. Can be as high as 4+% PER YEAR of the boat's value - generally the closer to DC the higher the PPT and there will/may be a PPT on your automobile as well.
12-26-2010 12:28 PM
Sabreman If I had to spend that much just to dock my boat on the Bay, I wouldn't have one.

We pay $1680 per year at Olverson's (Olverson's Lodge Creek Marina) which I consider to be one of the gems of the Chesapeake. It's a true boater's yard - not fancy, but clean, well maintained, and with all the amenities. There is asuch a dedicated following, that people pass their slips to their kids. Fred Olverson is a boater, spending 6 mos a year onboard Freddy Bear and the ICW.

Buzzards Point (Buzzard's Point Marina) is cheaper at $1200. Less amenities, but quiet and at the gateway to some of the best sailing on the Bay. We spent 10 years there, leaving only to accommodate our 6 year old with a pool, etc at Olverson's.

On the Eastern Shore, check out Somers Cove Marina (Somers Cove Marina) in Crisfield. It's a very large, well run marina, with ALL the amenities. For a 30' boat the yearly fee would be $1620.

If you are interested in the Northern Neck, there are others. Basically, the closer to Annapolis that you go, the more expensive that it is. Middle Bay is much more laid back and rural feeling.
12-26-2010 08:01 AM
deniseO30 Thanks everyone.. this keeps sounding better and better!
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