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3 Hours Ago 09:46 PM
olson34
Re: Island Packet 35

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Originally Posted by rlopatterson View Post
I have lurked here for some time and have to disagree with Jeff_H and how he chimes in as a know it all on things he has no expertise at all. If Island Packets were terrible boats, why can't you find a current or past owner with anything negative to say about them other than a few small compromises that are in any boat?

I have SAILED on an IP38 for 567 miles across the Gulf running the engine only to charge the batteries. Sailing is what the boat did and it did it well regardless of what some know it all moderator with no first-hand experience says. The boat sailed awesome and in her element and more comfortable than any boat I have sailed in the GOM. I am retired CG after 27 years.
Dear sir, Your satisfaction with the design shows that the IP is the Right boat for Your needs. Your snipping at Jeff is unwarranted.
I have been reading his posts for quite a few years and I feel that his comments on boats and designs echoes much of what I have learned while doing deliveries over the last 3 decades.
That said, I do not agree with everything he writes, and likely would not disagree with all of your writings either (!).

IP's are not "terrible" but they are handicapped in their sailing abilities given their original design brief -- shoal water capability was the driving requirement. The fact that they are able to sail at all above a beam reach shows that they have done all that they can within the constraints of a long straight keel.

As to the opinions of their owners, like all owners who know what they want and paid a lot for it, they are not going to complain!

So sail on and enjoy your boat.

In parting, I will never forget the IP salesman's comment when I and several other sailors were looking around inside one of their 35 footers at the Seattle winter boat show. When I asked him where I would get my rest on the off watch offshore, given that there were no sea berths in the cabin, just some comfy chairs.... he said that I would sleep on the cabin sole. Oh MY.
So I pointed out that for a quarter million dollars I really wanted a secure berth to sleep in, he said (without a bit of irony) that I was just Not the Right Customer for that boat!
After about 15 years, we all still chuckle at that exchange.


Regards,
Loren
5 Hours Ago 07:44 PM
rlopatterson
Re: Island Packet 35

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Originally Posted by Jeff_H View Post
The real question would be "How important is sailing to you?" because if sailing is important then an IP is probably the wrong way to go.
I have lurked here for some time and have to disagree with Jeff_H and how he chimes in as a know it all on things he has no expertise at all. If Island Packets were terrible boats, why can't you find a current or past owner with anything negative to say about them other than a few small compromises that are in any boat?

I have SAILED on an IP38 for 567 miles across the Gulf running the engine only to charge the batteries. Sailing is what the boat did and it did it well regardless of what some know it all moderator with no first-hand experience says. The boat sailed awesome and in her element and more comfortable than any boat I have sailed in the GOM. I am retired CG after 27 years.
04-13-2015 11:11 PM
miatapaul
Re: Island Packet 35

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Originally Posted by SouthernBreeze17 View Post
Tommays,

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If the IP "points" 10-15 degrees worse than a typical wing keel boat (and that is a big IF as I don't have any experience with an IP), and has 5-10 degrees less leeway, then the COG difference may be minimal.


Southern Breeze
Well that is the biggest problem, they not only point poorly but also make more leeway due to the shoal keel, so it is a double whammy.

I like the look of the boats, and they have a lot of well laid out space below. But that layout also provides some serious issues. The cabinetry makes it very hard to inspect things like chain plates, and on top of that the chain plates are embedded in the hull, so even if you can get to them you can't inspect them without cutting them out. Embedding them is really more of a cost cutting measure than anything else. I am not fond of other build techniques that are not really appropriate in a boat of the price.

But they would be one of the first boats to accept an invitation for a drink on, nice comfortable interior for sure. If you really need shoal draft, it is an option, but for me there is just too much compromise on performance and I am not a racer by any stretch of the term.
04-13-2015 10:24 PM
Eder
Re: Island Packet 35

I like my IP ...12 knots it's fine but when all other boats are heading for cover in 25 knots I'm still wondering if I should put the first reef in...there's nothing like it...
04-13-2015 08:43 PM
CBinRI
Re: Island Packet 35

Nobody has mentioned looks. Too boxy for my tastes. And I, too, would need a boat that pointed higher and was generally faster.
04-13-2015 10:02 AM
ronmckie I have an Island Packet 35 (1989) for over 26 years and have 1700 hours on the engine (original engine). I USE my boat and while I do have to occasionally motor sail I spend most of my time sailing. I live on the Chesapeake and the wind are typically on the 5-15 kt. range. This has been an excellent boat in all waters (Florida, Bahamas, Bermuda, Chesapeake). The best improvement for speed has been the installation of a feathering prop; it improved my light air performance significantly. She doesn't point as high as I would like (full keel) but she gets me there; safely!
10-31-2012 06:49 PM
dave6330
Re: Island Packet 35

I fully realize that this is an OLD thread.

However, I'd be very interested in hearing from some current (and former) owners of Island Packet 35's.

Do YOU concur with Jeff's evaluation that the IP 35 is mainly suited for boaters not interested in sailing and that, in fact, they sail poorly in heavy going. Are they REALLY so slow that, in your experience, you had to motorsail in order to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time?
01-01-2011 07:45 AM
capecodda You can also charter an IP from here:
Island Yachts U.S. Virgin Islands - Charter Vacations

No affiliation, but we'll be giving them a try to escape New England weather.

We've owned 5 boats over the last 20+ years from full keel's to whale bottom center boarders. As others have stated, our advice would be to think about how you like to use your boat, then pick a design that matches the application.
We've also found that the ideal boat for us changed over time, depending on where we wanted to cruise, where we wanted to moor, how many people we wanted to cruise with, etc. Whatever you do, it's unlikely to be your last boat.
We've had 5 LAST boats so far
12-31-2010 05:15 PM
olson34
There's a customer for Every Boat

Jeff has said it well.
I would only add that, like all boats power and sail, you have to consider first the 'design brief' for a given design, or in this case an entire line of boats.
IP wanted a fairly high-end quality shoal-draft hull with a lot of interior room for living. From that came a long keel with a protected area for prop and rudder in case of groundings, given the shoal cruising areas intended.

Basically it is a trawler hull form with a sail plan above. The fact that it sails poorly is just the reality of that whole design package.

If you sail in deeper waters where you can enjoy the benefits of an efficient keel form and want a hull form intended first for sailing... then you ought to consider another brand of boat.

They are nice enough boats, but you just have to know your real needs.


LB
12-31-2010 05:01 PM
Jeff_H If you want to charter an Island Packet you can try Gratitude Yacht Center which is located here on the Chesapeake. Sailboat Charters Rock Hall Maryland | Bareboat Sailboat Charters Chesapeake Bay | Gratitude Yachting Center Rock Hall MD

Smaller independent charter companies will often have IP as well as a broad spectrum of other boats in their fleets, I don't have time to respond to your other questions.

Jeff

Jeff
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