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01-08-2011 01:40 AM
L124C [QUOTE]=Omatako;683963]Anyone planning a coastal ......A good example of this is the east coast of Africa where there are no working lighthouses, no channel markers of any value and a very hostile sailing environment. A pilot of this area can literally mean the difference between life and death in a weather crisis.QUOTE]

Nicely said. My marina is starting to look more like the African waters you describe (the subject of another thread I started), which makes the publications (i.e., Notice to Mariners) even more important, even for familiar waters. Interestingly, a channel marker fell down at my marina, and the chart on the NOAA site (which I cited in the beginning of this thread) had it literally erased withing two weeks (for those looking for corrected charts). On the other hand, the Notice To Mariners was incorrect about some of the extinguished lights. So, while they generally indicated unreliable Aids To Navigation, the info could not be counted on literally.
01-08-2011 01:01 AM
jackdale
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Originally Posted by seayalatermoonglow View Post
Hmmm a head scratcher for sure. I guess even Fisheries and Oceans are human.
I actually called the Gordon Reid on the VHF and was informed rather curtly that that there was a notice to shipping which I had missed.
01-07-2011 11:47 PM
Bilgewater
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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
When the Coast Guard temporarily installed N22 near Pultney Point, I was really confused. It is in its proper place new on the Kelp Patch.
Hmmm a head scratcher for sure. I guess even Fisheries and Oceans are human.
01-07-2011 11:05 PM
jackdale
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Originally Posted by seayalatermoonglow View Post
Well, I carry all these things required for Canadians but I must say, my Notices to Mariners is likely very very very outdated. Jack do you correct your charts? The American rule seems more stringent ie: having corrected charts. In all my travels on others boats I'm not sure I've ever seen a corrected chart other than good fishing or crabbing spots and other such notes.
Since I sail charter boats all of the time, I get the charts the company supplies.
When the Coast Guard temporarily installed N22 near Pultney Point, I was really confused. It is in its proper place new on the Kelp Patch.

I do get a Friday update for a couple of charts just to see how the system works.
01-07-2011 10:11 PM
Bilgewater
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Skookumchuk Rapids also known as Sechelt Rapids

I have not been through here. Needless to say you wait for the turn.
I don't wait for the turn. I go through Skookumchuk regularly and sometimes it's running full throttle. I go through when those kayakers are looking at me in dismay.

Now that would be in my workboat which I can power through at high speeds, dodging the wirlpools, logs etc.

My sailboat....now that's a different story, I never transit at more than 10 minutes or so either side of slack I would say but usually shoot for less.
01-07-2011 09:54 PM
Bilgewater
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Originally Posted by Boasun View Post
That is the table that you put your Tide laundry soap on....

On U.S. Commercial vessels, you are required to carry:
Rules of the Road
Coast Pilot
Light List
Tide & Current Tables
Corrected Charts for the area you are working.
Local Notice to Mariners.

And when I finally have another boat, that is what I will have on board.

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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Not sure about US law; it is a Canadian requirement
USE OF DOCUMENTS AND PUBLICATIONS
6. (1) Subject to subsection (3), the person in charge of the navigation of a ship in waters under Canadian jurisdiction shall use, in respect of each area to be navigated by the ship, the most recent edition of
(a) the reference catalogue;
(b) the annual edition of the Notices to Mariners, published by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans;
(c) the following publications, namely,
(i) sailing directions, published by the Canadian Hydrographic Service,
(ii) tide and current tables, published by the Canadian Hydrographic Service,
(iii) lists of lights, buoys and fog signals, published by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, and
(iv) where the ship is required to be fitted with radio equipment pursuant to any Act of Parliament or of a foreign jurisdiction, the Radio Aids to Marine Navigation, published by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans; and
(d) the documents and publications listed in the schedule.
Well, I carry all these things required for Canadians but I must say, my Notices to Mariners is likely very very very outdated. Jack do you correct your charts? The American rule seems more stringent ie: having corrected charts. In all my travels on others boats I'm not sure I've ever seen a corrected chart other than good fishing or crabbing spots and other such notes.
01-07-2011 03:56 PM
jackdale
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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
A 16.5 Knot current? Yikes!
Skookumchuk Rapids also known as Sechelt Rapids

I have not been through here. Needless to say you wait for the turn.

01-07-2011 03:21 PM
L124C
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We use both tide and current tables.

The highest tides we get on the West Coast are 18 feet, the worst currents 16.5 knots.
I was kidding about the tide and current tables. As a Windsurfer who sails the Golden Gate, I'm VERY familiar with them. A 16.5 Knot current? Yikes!
01-07-2011 03:04 PM
jackdale
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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
What's a "Tide table" anyway?
We use both tide and current tables.

http://www.lau.chs-shc.gc.ca/2011_pr..._ref/07330.pdf

http://www.lau.chs-shc.gc.ca/2011_pr..._ref/03500.pdf

The highest tides we get on the West Coast are 18 feet, the worst currents 16.5 knots.
01-07-2011 02:16 PM
jhorsager
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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
What's a "Tide table" anyway?
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Originally Posted by Boasun View Post
That is the table that you put your Tide laundry soap on....
It's a table (brand = Tide), that when rotated 180 degrees, offers a very different functionality to the user. Thus the phrase, "the tides have turned."

It is required equipment in U.S. and Canadian waters for any vessel that plans on pulling the "old switcheroo".
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