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|01-19-2011 07:05 PM|
|thehardaground||Take a look at Mirage 24s as well. Was going to be the design for the C&C 24 originally except that at the time C&C didn't think they had a market for a boat under 25', so Mirage bought/aquired the design and built quite a few. Had hull 268 a number of years ago for quite a long time. Recently bought a C&C 27 in really good condition for $5k, so if you're patient you can find deals.|
|12-29-2010 08:31 PM|
Since you both enjoy sailing, and seem quite confident that it's something you'll want to continue with your family, AND if you can swing the money I'd be very tempted to go for the 27 or something in that range. Your small tots will grow quickly, and this is an excellent time to start sailing with them.
I think you'll be much more comfortable with a larger boat and more inclined to spend extended vacations afloat with a family of 4 if you go to a 27/28 footer. A Cat 27, C&C 27, etc.. look at Rangers too perhaps, you should be able to find a decent example under $10K nowadays.
|12-29-2010 07:20 PM|
We bought a 1979 C&C24 in May last year. Good little boat
Ours has a head under the v-berth, but ours is a different layout to a lot of the 24's out there which have it at the rear near the companionway with the seating that goes across the entrance to v-berth.
We also have a traveler and all lines lead back to the cockpit so we have a complete set of sail controls in easy reach, lacking a furler on for foresail but no biggie. She's a fun boat to sail, pretty stable and pretty quick (original sails and I can still get clipping along at 7knots). The standing rigging seems to be somewhat oversized and overall the boat feels really solidly built, she feels like she'd put up with a lot of abuse from the weather, the sea and the owner lol.
Lots of room inside (for a 24 footer) as she's quite beamy, certainly OK for a couple for up to maybe a week of cruising as long as you aren't 6ft+.
It's a lot more boat than the Catalina 22, we looked at things from Cal20's up to a couple of 27 footers and the C&C24 ticked the boxes,not too big for a first boat, but not so small that we'd outgrow it in a season.
If you haven't been to see it yet, I'd definitely consider going to take a look, there's no real substitute for your own feelings about it.
|12-29-2010 04:49 PM|
Please give us some other details. What is the year of the boats? Are there adds online that we can review? Where are you located? Most importantly, what is your budget?
Without knowing any of the details, I would say the C&C simply based on size. Although they are not much different and the Catalina 22 has a swing keel typically, which can be nice for learning.
Also, the price you have for the C&Cs seem a little high. My 24 was in excellent condition and we only got $4,500 for it.
|12-29-2010 04:29 PM|
Wow thanks for all the amazing feedback and suggestions. I've definitely been leaning towards one of the C&C line of boats (their reputation is exceptional and feedback from owners is consistently positive) but there is something desirable about the popularity and support available to Catalina's line of boats (especially for a novice boat owner).
Right now I'm considering a 1981 Catalina 22 (excellent condition, extremely meticulous owner), a C&C 24 (presumably also in excellent condition though I haven't inspected it myself) and a 1975 C&C 27 (good condition but in serious need of some TLC). Prices nearly double from boat to boat starting at around 3500 for the Catalina, 7000 for the C&C 24 and 12000 for the C&C 27. I'm willing to swallow the difference in price if I can determine exactly which is the best boat for me at this point in my sailing career.
My situation is that I am a novice sailor with two young children (below the age of 4) and a wife who likes to sail (but also novice). We're definitely the type who plan to be sailing for many, many years to come and hope it will become a family pastime but we still need to spend more time on the water renewing and developing our sailing skills. I'm inclined to go with a smaller/starter boat initially and move up to something larger in the future..... but I don't want to outgrow a small boat too quickly.
What would others recommend based on the information and my personal situation? The smaller or larger boat? The Catalina or the C&C 24 (when one considers the price difference between the two)? Will this be my first boat and I'll likely upgrade in the next couple years anyway so go with the cheaper small boat? I would be grateful to hear of others experiences.
Thanks again for all the amazing information, Craig
|12-29-2010 03:37 PM|
We started with a 24 Shark - another C&C built boat - and really liked the look of the Niagara 26 at the time (still do, for that matter) more like a grown up shark than the rest of the C&C line.
The C&C 24 is a nice boat too, and any of the models mentioned here will do fine.
|12-29-2010 12:35 PM|
You might want to consider the C&C 25 as well as the C&C 24. I have known owners of both and they like them a lot.
I used to sail another Hinterhoeller boat, a Niagara 26, for a decade. Did a lot of cruises with and without my wife aboard (my job had more vacation time available in the summers than hers).
Even raced it a couple seasons... very successfully I might add.
If you can find one, they are kinda-sorta like a C&C 25 that's been narrowed up a bit and lengthened. Fast, responsive, and enough room inside to cruise for two weeks at a time.
|12-29-2010 10:46 AM|
|ahab211||Hi, I agree with JKCatalina310 and find my C&c 24 to be a good all around boat. I would choose either the 25 or 27 though if you are traveling with a family. I singlehand with my dachshunds and bring out my wife for daysails and the 24 is a good dependable and yet fast boat for that. Good luck Ahab211|
|12-29-2010 08:05 AM|
C&C 24s are great
We just sold our C&C 24 in October. She is a 1980 boat and had been in my family since 1983. My aunt and uncle first had her from 1983 to 2007. They sailed her all over the Rhode Island area and southern Mass. We kept her in Hingham, Mass. and sailed her all around Boston and up and down the coast. Here is the flicker page I set up when selling our C&C.
The C&C is a great boat to learn on. The sailing system is extremely simple; main sheet comes down in the middle of the cockpit with no traveler, they typically have a Cunningham so main sail adjustments are limited to sheet, halyard, outhaul and Cunningham. One that has been updated well would have the halyards lead back to the cockpit (ours did not but it would have made a huge improvement), a roller furling for the headsail and backstay adjuster.
She is a very tough little boat and we had her out some days with winds blowing at 25-30 knots. Our concern on extremely windy days was being able to get back into the slip with the 6 hp motor. We never were at a point where we didn't trust the boat, just the motor and our sailing skills. With the fin keel, she was not that tender, relative to other boats her size.
The layout was good for day sailing, not so good for extended cruising. On a day sail, we would take up to four others, for a total of six. But were definitely more comfortable with a total of four plus our dog. (that is our dog, Summer, on the bow of our C&C in my profile picture)
The systems were relatively easy to access for regular maintenance. Some of the nuts and backing plates on the stanchions, cleats and winches were difficult to access. Specifically, the ones on the port stern quarter.
The boat does have some down sides. The biggest down side was the lack of a head. She has a portapotty under the veeberth. If you plan to sail with women, I highly suggest something with a fixed head.
For coastal cruising, she is a bit tight. The head room is less then 5 feet. Not a big deal on nice days but on rainy days or when drying to get dressed, it was a pain.
Also, she was short on storage space. This limited the time you could spend without having to hit a marina for more water and ice. The water tank was a two gallon poly tank attached to the hand pump sink. We didn't even bother filling it this last year, just carried a lot of bottled water.
The main sheet in the middle of the cockpit makes it difficult to add any type of sun shade for when sailing. Also, as my sailing skills progressed, I found myself wishing for a traveler help make better adjustments to the main. You could add a traveler in a couple of different ways. If you do buy a C&C 24 and want to add a traveler, I could let you know some of the ideas I had.
If the C&C 24 had a little more head room and a full head, we would likely still own her. I would highly recommend them to anyone looking to get into sailing. If you plan is to try sailing and if you like it, move up to a bigger boat, this is a great choice. If you plan to stay with this boat for a long time, I would recommend looking at the C&C 25 or 27. The 25 is extremely similar but has a full head. A friend at our marina has one and loves it.
Good luck. Please let me know if you have any other questions on the C&C 24.
|12-28-2010 11:53 PM|
Elusive C&C 24
I'm wondering what others' opinions are about the smallest of the C&C boats? I'm looking to purchase my first boat for cruising with my family but both my wife and I want something that is still super fun to sail!
We've also been looking at Catalina 22's, 27's and C&C 27's but we're on a bit of a budget so some of the bigger boats within our price range seem to come with their own set of problems.
Thanks to everyone in advance for your input,