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01-20-2011 01:06 PM
MarkCK Actually a power-sailor might be exactly what you are looking for. With your health issues the power boat is probably what you need. On the days when the conditions are right you can raise the sails until you no longer feel like it. The power-sailor should have larger fuel tanks so extended cruising will be more feasible. As an added bonus since you are new to sailing you wont know how horrible these things really sail. If you were a life long sailor and then went the power-sailor route you would be very frustrated every time you raised your sails.

I don't have any personal experience with this type of boat but they have a devoted following. Especially since most people power a lot more than they like to admit. I am not sure if they have hit this price range yet on the used market you but Island Packet started selling a motor sailor a few years back.
01-20-2011 12:35 PM
Minnewaska Wait until you take your lessons. You will know which you prefer. Power v Sail.

I know you hope for a hybrid, but they don't really exist in nature. Some only try to force the issue.
01-20-2011 08:54 AM
aquaman9
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Originally Posted by vega1860 View Post
If you are seriously considering Alaska, you might as well get a trawler and forget the sailboat altogether. If you plan to start in SoCal you will be going against the prevailing winds up the coast. If you plan to start in Puget Sound and go up the inside passage you will be motoring the whole way anyway. We spent three and a half years cruising in the Pacific Northwest and could have left our sails in the bags for all the use they got.

Just my opinion
I guess thats why I'm looking for a duel purpose boat. I can't afford to buy a boat for a Alaska cruise and than turn around and sell it the year after when I come back to the Atlantic side and start Iisland hopping. Looking for one boat to do both.
01-19-2011 01:18 PM
vega1860 If you are seriously considering Alaska, you might as well get a trawler and forget the sailboat altogether. If you plan to start in SoCal you will be going against the prevailing winds up the coast. If you plan to start in Puget Sound and go up the inside passage you will be motoring the whole way anyway. We spent three and a half years cruising in the Pacific Northwest and could have left our sails in the bags for all the use they got.

Just my opinion
01-19-2011 11:45 AM
rmeador You have to be careful with Gulfstars. For a good portion of the company's history, they built motorsailers (and they weren't particularly good at either motoring or sailing). They also are known for quality issues such as blistering during this time period. There is a fairly narrow time span where they built really nice, good-performing, quality sailboats, and that is approximately from 1975-1981 (again, approx... I am not an expert on Gulfstar, I am just repeating what the listing broker of my boat told me, and he used to work for Gulfstar). I couldn't be happier with my boat. It has an awesome interior, it is very sturdy, and it is really fast. Just make sure you do your research so you don't get one of the "bad" boats (which may not be bad for your purposes, just make sure you know what you're getting).
01-19-2011 11:29 AM
aquaman9
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Originally Posted by rmeador View Post
My 37' foot sailboat can hit 8kts under engine alone at 80% of max RPMs (standard cruising speed), and I only have a 37hp engine. A 45' boat should be able to go faster than that.
I saw a 47' Gulfstar with I believe 130hp that claimed 8 to 9kts with a great layout and ready to go. They have it listed as a motorsailer but I believe it is a Sailmaster which is more of a sail boat then a motorboat. It looked like a good compromize. It is advertized on Yachtworld. Don't know how to post a pic.
01-19-2011 10:28 AM
rmeador My 37' foot sailboat can hit 8kts under engine alone at 80% of max RPMs (standard cruising speed), and I only have a 37hp engine. A 45' boat should be able to go faster than that.
01-19-2011 07:29 AM
omaho5 Going out on a limb here. Most "motor sailers" do not sail [under sail] as well as true sailing yachts for several reasons.
You will have to do your home work on this.
01-19-2011 05:06 AM
Minnewaska A standard 45ft sailboat with a good diesel engine should get you at least very close to 8kts under power. As an over-generalization, the motorsailer is more likely to get you a helm station protected from the weather. But there are also pilot house sailboats that can offer that.

I think it depends on why you are interested in a sailboat at all. If it is to avoid the diesel expense on a long trip, I would strongly lean toward an efficient sailboat with a motor backup. A motorsailer is sort of the other way around.
01-18-2011 09:49 PM
aquaman9
Should have checked older threads

After posting this I found a debate on the subject in many older posts. Another reason that we are looking at a motorsailer is that with my Rhematoid Arthritis I have bad days and good days. My wife and I have enough boating(power baoting) experience to get home under power in a bad situation. If I have to wait for better health it will most likely never happen. I would feel more comfortable on the bad days being able to hit 8 to 10 knots without my wife trying to saill it by herself.
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