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03-15-2016 08:55 AM
Soho
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

Just adding my name to the list, I have an 1982 Albin Nimbus 42, located in Bermuda. Did extensive refit on her about 8 years ago and the journey continues on. Great sailing boat and we love her. Happy to answer any questions as appropriate.

Have one of my own..... I get water under the forward berth tank, I think that the ingress is from the chain locker which at the forward end is not 100% sealed to the the under deck at the top, hence when healed over and with some water possibly coming in via the chain locker drain, I could see it sloshing up over this opening and then back down into the boat. I have tried to seal this areas in the chain locker, but probably did not do a good enough job, it is a hard area to get to. It has sort of compounded itself as I think the water has migrated from the area under the tank to along some of the stringers that run fore and aft as I am getting some leaking now from underneath the floor boards, sort of seeping up between them. the shallow bilges don't help. Anybody else seen this ?
03-13-2016 09:52 AM
Albin42
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

All- going thru a thorough refit on Veela. New subfloor/sole, new windows, new interior veneer, new ceiling, new rigging, sails, etc.
would not mind to compare notes with people that went thru this before - bfgtech.main at gmail.com
Btw i DID find the dreaded chinese newspaper under the deck near the main companionway
08-01-2015 11:29 AM
capo
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

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Originally Posted by RickSpil View Post
I am sure that you were dealing with a different broker. The selling broker, Cori Williams, has been extremely helpful and forthcoming. She was originally unaware that the Yachtworld photos showed teak on the side decks, (which is easy enough to miss unless you are looking for it,) but did tell me in our first conversation that the Yachtworld pictures were old. She was candid about the condition of the boat overall. Overall she has done a good job.

I also am reasonably sure that the owner has become somewhat more realistic about the price of the boat over time.

Other maintenance issues notwithstanding, my one concern remains the damp deck core. That may or may not be a deal breaker.
Yes. We were dealing with a different person. Good luck.
08-01-2015 10:26 AM
RickSpil
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

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Originally Posted by capo View Post
Just to let you know. We walked away from that boat. We didn't see it in person but we were serious. We found the broker to be dishonest. Those pictures posted on the listing are 10-18 years old. After a lot of hassle we got some recent pictures of the boat and to us it was enough to see the neglect and misrepresentation of the boat. If there was honesty involved, one could still consider it if the price was right to take care of her. I really like these boats and they can be a great value for the money but we got a different boat.
I am sure that you were dealing with a different broker. The selling broker, Cori Williams, has been extremely helpful and forthcoming. She was originally unaware that the Yachtworld photos showed teak on the side decks, (which is easy enough to miss unless you are looking for it,) but did tell me in our first conversation that the Yachtworld pictures were old. She was candid about the condition of the boat overall. Overall she has done a good job.

I also am reasonably sure that the owner has become somewhat more realistic about the price of the boat over time.

Other maintenance issues notwithstanding, my one concern remains the damp deck core. That may or may not be a deal breaker.
08-01-2015 07:01 AM
capo
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

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Originally Posted by RickSpil View Post
Just got back from the survey. Good and bad news. I am not sure what to do. The boat sailed very well during the sea trial. The engine looked and sounded good. The hull is in decent shape.

The one big concern that could be the deal breaker is that the surveyor found pretty widespread moisture in the deck, as well as a few delaminated spots.

The old teak deck sheathing was removed and the deck reglassed and non-skid applied at least ten years ago. The boat has not be maintained in about three years. I know about leaks in the cabin from the port lights and hatches. I am reasonably sure that the caulk on deck fittings and stanchions is shot and probably a source of leaking as well.

If the core was balsa or plywood, I would definitely walk away. from this thread, I understand that the core Albin used is Divinycell foam, which may be somewhat more impervious to water. The decks themselves do not feel spongy from walking and bouncing around on them.

The easiest thing to do is to walk away. On the other hand, I do like the boat quite a bit. Does anyone have any wisdom to offer?
Just to let you know. We walked away from that boat. We didn't see it in person but we were serious. We found the broker to be dishonest. Those pictures posted on the listing are 10-18 years old. After a lot of hassle we got some recent pictures of the boat and to us it was enough to see the neglect and misrepresentation of the boat. If there was honesty involved, one could still consider it if the price was right to take care of her. I really like these boats and they can be a great value for the money but we got a different boat.
07-31-2015 03:06 PM
hellosailor
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

As Tom Chapin used to say to his brother Harry during concerts, "That sucks."

Dinicyl, or whatever the plastic curlicues are, might be hard to match up if recoring. But then again, in theory it just gets wet but doesn't break down. Maybe you can find out from the maker?

If ALL the teak was removed, and the entire deck was re-glassed and done properly, there should be no more water intrusion and it should have dried out before being re-sealed. Unless they were trying to grow new antibiotics in there.

Question would be how is the water still getting in, how extensive the work will be needed to pursue that, because it undoubtedly will be leaking into the interior and making life, well, wet and moldy if nothing worse.

I'd bet the broker knew of this and was innocently playing dumb, nice guy.

Drying the deck out...sounds like removing all the hatches and hardware and leaving a blower running for a week or two might do it. Figure the cost of that, dead storage for the month, having a yard remove and reinstall all of that, and get an estimate for what what would come to. WAG is seven grand and I wouldn't be surprised to see ten, remember it should be indoors or tented to keep new rain out while that is done.

Then give Mr. Integrity your revised offer, deducting that price from the purchase price. And be generous to yourself as to making Real Damned Sure you've covered everything.

Of course, I'm just a hard character. I don't like sleeping in the rain, no matter HOW soft the sheets, or the water, are.
07-31-2015 02:09 PM
RickSpil
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

Just got back from the survey. Good and bad news. I am not sure what to do. The boat sailed very well during the sea trial. The engine looked and sounded good. The hull is in decent shape.

The one big concern that could be the deal breaker is that the surveyor found pretty widespread moisture in the deck, as well as a few delaminated spots.

The old teak deck sheathing was removed and the deck reglassed and non-skid applied at least ten years ago. The boat has not be maintained in about three years. I know about leaks in the cabin from the port lights and hatches. I am reasonably sure that the caulk on deck fittings and stanchions is shot and probably a source of leaking as well.

If the core was balsa or plywood, I would definitely walk away. from this thread, I understand that the core Albin used is Divinycell foam, which may be somewhat more impervious to water. The decks themselves do not feel spongy from walking and bouncing around on them.

The easiest thing to do is to walk away. On the other hand, I do like the boat quite a bit. Does anyone have any wisdom to offer?
07-18-2015 02:58 PM
RickSpil
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

Agreed. When I said re-caulking, I meant rebedding. Running a bead of caulk is better than nothing but not by much.
07-18-2015 02:52 PM
hellosailor
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

Just keep in mind, caulking portlights and hatches is only a temporary fix. If they leak, they really need to be rebidded properly, and completely. Caulking is a step better than slapping duct tape over them, but just a short-term solution.

Let us all know what happens.
07-18-2015 02:48 PM
RickSpil
Re: Any Albin Nimbus 42 owners out there

The brokerage photos show teak on the side decks, but, in fact, the only remaining teak on the boat is one small bit of trim on the stern. My guess is that the surveyor's hammer may be a better tool than his moisture meter when going over the decks, but we shall see.

The engine will require a serious looking over in the survey. The boat has been on the hard for about a year, so it is likely that it was run a least at the dock more recently than three years ago.

The new rig reportedly came about after the old mast was damaged by a commercial boat mover. At least that is what the records say.

The interior looks pretty good. A bit of cosmetic varnish work here and there but overall not bad. Regarding the port lights and hatches, I've done a lot of caulking and recaulking over the years, but I may or may not have time.

If we do come to terms on price and the survey comes out OK, it will be interesting to see where I end up putting her. I haven't ruled out the Northern Chesapeake. Or if all goes well, I will put her to bed for the winter closer to home.
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