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07-24-2011 08:36 PM
zz4gta Sabre, what does it cost to keep the boat overnight on ego alley? I was thinking of moving it up the weekend before but not sure. Boat is on solomons right now.
07-24-2011 12:08 PM
chef2sail Sabre..I bought a similarly constructed sail...same material from Quantum this year, They also had great customer service came to the boat twive...once to measure and once to fit. I did go with the 4 full batens ( top 2 have interchangable oners for lkight and heacy air) and got a strong track system. We view our sailing like yours..Criuising with an attitude sometimes. PM me what you paid as I am changinhg our 155 jib next year and want to see comparitively the cost.

Dave
07-24-2011 09:01 AM
Sabreman Rich - I think that it's a taped luff but will check.

Z - Not signed up yet. Gathering crew. One of my principles (the guy who put the hole in Audrey) can't make it. But others probably will. Should firm up in the next few days. With a new genoa, new main, fully functional centerboard, and reworked spinnaker pole, I'd like to see if the cash outlay will show an improvement at the finish line! Hopefully, we'll see you in Annapolis. We stay in Ego Alley Thu night - we'll look for you.
07-24-2011 01:11 AM
zz4gta Thanks for the report. I'm sure you'll love it. I race on a 30 footer that went with an evolution dacron sail and it's very nice. Are you signed up for gov cup this year? Last 2 have been on other boats for me, but this year Audrey will be on the line.
07-23-2011 11:59 PM
RichH Is the sail a 'taped luff' or a 'boltroped luff'?????
If the sail is boltroped, now is the time to measure the exact luff dimensions so that 'when' the boltrope shrinks (due to stretch-release of hoisting and sail loads) it can 'more easily' be readjusted or "eased" back to its proper dimension. For aggressive sailing a boltrope probably needs to be eased after each seasons sailing; if you have the precise (as measured - actual) dimensions such easing is quite simple .... and will VASTLY extend the service life of a woven dacron sail.
Challenge High Aspect is a very very good sail material - enjoy!!!
07-23-2011 03:47 PM
OtterGreen i recently had a custom sail made and ive experienced friction as well. im not sure if it is maybe because of the brandy new slugs on the track but if there is any wind direction besides dead on, it will lock and i wont be able to hoist. i put some lube on the track and it helped a bit. well see how it goes in the future.
07-23-2011 12:15 AM
Sabreman
Update

So this is what we finally ended up with.

We finally went with a main sail by Evolution Sails. Scott Gibbs runs the Easton MD loft and was great to work with. Of the 9 quotes (local & mail order) that I received, he was one of only two lofts that insisted on measuring the boat. We discussed sail material and weight finally settling on Challenge High Aspect 8.62 oz. We went with full roach, a 2+2 configuration, loose foot with leech and foot lines. Scott was not a great fan of over the over-the-top-leech so I kept it simple. We have 2 sets of reef points and cunningham. The upper two batten pockets are reinforced with a plastic pocket to reduce compression pressure on the sail track. In addition to sail numbers, we added two rows of draft stripes. Nice sail ties with a sewn loop at the end (secure with a hitch vs. square knot). Nice custom pusher stick to set the battens inside the velcro'd pocket; elegant solution.

I went with Evolution because of the personal attention, their reputation for racing sails (I consider mine a cruising sail with an attitude), and the fact that the sail was made locally in Easton (I visited when it was being built-fun). Price was not the cheapest nor most expensive; a little bit higher than the median price. I did not experience any sailmaker "arrogance" as with at least 2 other lofts. Very down to earth.

Initial fit showed the that the foot was too long, but Evolution came to the boat (all the way over in VA), picked it up, and delivered the adjusted sail cheerfully and without question. I also had them replace the racing numbers on a spinnaker, which came out fine. I installed the sail yesterday and at the dock it looks good. I still need to see it properly tensioned and sailing for a final judgement. Not sure when that will be - it's HOT here and windless.

I would buy from them again.
02-04-2011 07:35 PM
zz4gta The over the top leech line is probably a good bet for your boat and the type of sailing you do. Not for me, small boat and rig, very weight sensitive.
02-04-2011 05:44 PM
Sabreman
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If you end up going with a very roachy main - overlaps your backstay
I'd like a roach that approaches the backstay but does not overlap due to the chaffing issues. I just want to fill some of the empty air.

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consider a second set of STIFFER for top 2 battens for 'heavier' winds
We plan to have a set for light air (July /Aug) and another set for fresher breezes. I saw the same recommendation on Quantum's site.

I'm also leaning toward an Over-The-Top leech line.
02-04-2011 04:16 PM
thehardaground If you end up going with a very roachy main - overlaps your backstay - you will probably find that the 2+2 configuration is probably going to be easiest to tack in the light stuff. What means of attachment will your main have to your mast? If it's going to have slugs on it make sure that your sail only has one at each batten. My first new 4 full batten main had two slugs at each batten, one just above, and one just below. Not too much of a pain in the ass going up, but when dousing the battens would end up causing the two slugs to bind. Granted it was an easy fix - just take one out, and there was a spare, rarely used one available too, but really unnecessary.
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