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|02-08-2011 03:14 PM|
I think the 441 is probable an excellent boat to sail as well. I think, as some others have also said, that the S&S 44 is a prettier boat. As a matter of fact I prefer the look of the older S&S designs for Swan before the wedge deck made an appearance.
As far as suitability for a circumnavigation, the layout is a very personal choice.
Rigging can certainly be changed to suit. But they are headsail driven as most were at that time and while racing there were a lot of hands to help with that. That goes for both designs.
|02-08-2011 12:48 PM|
Many thanks for your opinnions which I appreciate a lot. It seems that it is hard to get experience of the Swan 441 suits for cruising and live aboard when circumnavigating.
|02-07-2011 05:35 PM|
Originally Posted by CBinRI View Post
I do have to admit that I am one of those who sails to get to a destination and is then likely to stay put for as long as possible. I think it changes your perspective on what features matter most.
|02-07-2011 04:58 PM|
|mitiempo||I see that as well. I have neighbors with an Albin 42 by Kaufmann & Ladd with almost the same arrangement. They have a dodger over the cabintop hatch. The cockpit is open.|
|02-07-2011 04:52 PM|
Originally Posted by tdw View Post
|02-07-2011 04:11 PM|
Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
|02-07-2011 11:08 AM|
My recollection is that the 44 is a Sparkman & Stephens design and the 441 is a Ron Holland design. Both will be extremely well-built and relatively fast blue water cruisers. Between the two, I would lean toward the 44, because I think there is much more of a resale market for the S&S Swans, which have a very devoted following. Holland did not design for Nautor for very long before Swan went to Frers so Holland does not have the following (with Swans) that S&S developed. Just my two cents. (In the interest of full disclosure, I have an S&S designed Swan.)
Here is a good web-site, although very biased in favor of S&S.
S&S Swan Association
|02-02-2011 05:39 PM|
I would take the 44 - always loved the looks of that design. S&S at their best.
But as Tommays posted the teak decks (which I believe they all had but I could be wrong) could be a big issue.
|02-02-2011 02:21 PM|
|tommays||Which ever one does NOT have screwed down teak decks|
|02-02-2011 01:08 PM|
Swan 44 vs Swan 441
Anaybody having ideas, experience cruising/circumnavavigation wit these boats?