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|04-08-2011 10:24 AM|
Originally Posted by zz4gta View Post
Next time I buy a boat, I'm going to check simple things like, is the mast appropriate for the boat? How many layers of paint are on the bottom? And I'll definitely hire a different surveyer.
Hey, it's only money, right?
That said, I have only one big item left to replace (the rig) and once that's done, well, it will be one hell of a good boat.
|04-08-2011 08:21 AM|
Wow, the stripped the bottom, faired it and the keel, then barrier coat and bottom paint. I'm sure that cost a fortune. I did that on my 25 footer (and templated the rudder) and it took forever.
The bottom is working all the time, and water is way more dense than air. I'd do it all over again if I had to. Biggest single improvement I've ever done to the boat. Good onya Jim.
|04-08-2011 01:47 AM|
Originally Posted by DGriffith View Post
I think you made the right decision. I'll disagree with most other posters. I think soda blasting is the way to go. I was going to do my own bottom job. I started with the chemical strippers, which did pretty much nothing but make a big gooey mess. I decided to turn the job over to the pros, who have the experience and equipment to do it and do it well.
That in itself was a project. I called many yards throughout New England. Many promised quotes. Only one delivered. I want to the Newport (Rhode Island) boat show. Twelve yards promised me quotes "within a week." Guess how many provided quotes? If you said zero, you get the prize. This at the height of the recession. I finally gave the job to Lars Guck, of Guck Inc. in Bristol, RI. His references were great and he encouraged me to come by frequently to see each step of the work.
It started with the soda blasting. All the paint was gone, and every blister was opened up. Every blister was then sanded to remove the rough edges and filled with epoxy. Then sanding. Then the barrier coat. Then more sanding still. More barrier coat, more sanding, wash, rinse, repeat. Then a hard paint, Baltoplate. Then sanding again. More paint, more sanding, more paint and finally, you guessed it, more sanding.
Here are some pictures at various stages:
Bottom Pictures Before Bottom Job | Jim's Scampi 30 MK-IV Site - Helios
Bottom Job Progress - The Hull After Soda Blasting | Jim's Scampi 30 MK-IV Site - Helios
Bottom Job | Jim's Scampi 30 MK-IV Site - Helios
During the job, they notied that all kinds of crap had been attached to my keel along the years. Fiberglass. Wood. Eben foam board and bondo. They brought it right down to lead, had a computer design a template for proper shape, and fixed it right.
Yes, it was very expensive. The boat won;t be sold for many years now! At $55.00 per hour, if they do good work, you are doing very well.
|03-04-2011 07:43 PM|
|DGriffith||Thanks to all for the input. Haul and block Monday. Soda blast and 5 barrier coats and 3 coats of PPG ABC3 self polishing anti fungal bottom paint. 5 year bottom, the same paint the US Navy and all commercial vessels in our area use. Mutch less expencive than Pettit with better reviews. With the slowdown it gulf drilling, the work boats are idle and divers attest to clean bottoms. I'll post an update when I see results. Doug Griffith PSC 37 #249 Kindred Spirit|
|03-04-2011 10:20 AM|
Originally Posted by DGriffith View Post
|03-04-2011 08:22 AM|
|zz4gta||they all use minimum wage labor.|
|03-04-2011 05:29 AM|
My factory barrier coat on Asylum was flaking off in sheets. Interlux said I got enough life out of the paint, but it did not seem right to me. nevertheless I was faced with a complete redo. At the time, money was tight so I chemical stripped all of the old paint off then paid a guy to sand for new barrier coat. I put on 5 coats of barrier coat, then new ablative. There was not a single blister. No experience with the blasting but I don't see why it would not be OK unless he uses minimum wage labor.
|03-03-2011 09:30 PM|
|Pegasus34||We stripped the bottom paint off our PSC 34 a couple of years ago using soy strip. While we didn't have problems with fumes, it was the worst job we have ever done! If we ever need to do it again, I'll pay someone.|
|03-03-2011 07:56 PM|
|DGriffith||Alot of good input. I do have a breakdown of items on the bid. The yard charges 55.00 per hour labor which is 10.00 less than local yards because of their location and has a good reputation and refrences. I would be using Gulf Coast Soda Blasting. The owner is a fellow yacht club member and also has a very good reputation for quality work. His SSCA presentation at our local luncheon (he is a member) was informative. He claims soda blasting is the least damaging way to remove bottoms and the greenest way also, no damage to gelcoat. His charge 1500.00 with one days labor. If I were to try a DIYS job my yard fees would be just that for weekend only labor. Yes you can consider Galveston Bay tropcial with 96 degree water temps in summer but 55 degree temps in winter. Alot of expantion and contraction. I do like the recomendation about ablative paint but I must be honest, we don't sail our boat enough to keep it clean. My diver scrubs the bottom 4 times a year and keeps the zinks fresh. At 389.00 haul block and launch a 2 year bottom racks up the $$$. I get 4 years on a hard bottom. In the bid the material cost is more than the labor. Please keep the posts coming I still haven't made up my mind. Doug|
|03-03-2011 06:28 PM|
Nice discussion about this topic on the Cape Dory Board
Stripping Bottom Paint
A number of CD owners have had luck with Soy Strip...
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