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|04-01-2011 07:46 AM|
Originally Posted by PCP View Post
Maybe that's what the local regs already required, and this organization simply ignored them. If so, there may be no need for new regulations, just after-the-fact charges against the captain/organization for breaking the law (on multiple occasions).
Even those regulations do not guarantee perfect safety of the passengers - think Baltimore Water Taxi and Philly Duck Boats. But they do hopefully minimize the incidence of egregious repeated safety violations, which some are saying was the case here.
|04-01-2011 06:20 AM|
Originally Posted by sailtch View Post
If someone can do this kind of stuff without any kind of supervision (kind of licence needed, kind of boat that fulfill the basic requirements, number of people that boat can carry under these circumstances and so on) how can they have "trusted this organization to provide a safe sail. When "Captain George"... welcomed them aboard they assumed he knew what the frig he was doing" if, as you have said, they probably don't know nothing about sailing or boats?
How should they know if it's safe or not? Who is telling them that? In whom can they trust?. There are a lot of good intentioned people that don't know what they are doing.
|04-01-2011 05:58 AM|
Originally Posted by mdbee View Post
|04-01-2011 05:28 AM|
|Minnewaska||Often, mistakes are completely disguised by randomly avoiding consequences the first time you make them. In this case, perhaps the first few hundred times.|
|03-31-2011 11:24 PM|
Yes I just joined, yes this is my first post. I have been reading(lurking) this forum for longer than I can recall, never felt the need to post, or guess I never felt I had something to share.
I am the parent of a special needs child. This organization (heart of sailing) is new to me. The boat as pictured is clearly overloaded, as it was when the accident occured. The responsibilty lies with the boats captain, whether he was USCG liscensed or not. Although I would wager he is not. One of the poster states that the parent should have stopped the voyage. I take a strong objection to this. These people were not sailors. These people probably had never before been on a boat. They were brought to the boat by Heart of Sailing. They trusted this organization to provide a safe sail. When "Captain George"(this is how he is refered to by the web site) welcomed them aboard they assumed he knew what the frig he was doing. The absolute terror the parents of the disabled child/children must have felt is staggering for these children must have been extremely traumatized. I am not for more or bigger government. I am for common sense. Organizations such as these should state the qualifications of their skippers. Are they USCG liscensed, ASA qualifications, etc.
Also this boat was in Chicago last summer, 2010, with "Captain George", see schedule below. On their website they ask for boat donations, if you look you will see they want keel boats. The mac 25 is not. Hopefully this link works.
Edit: I have been informed that I can not submit links because I am new. Type the following into your browser. heartofsailing.org/regional77. If that fails go to their website, click sail with us, click chicago.
|03-31-2011 08:45 PM|
Did this Skipper have a USCG license?
Was the boat inspected, & certified for commercial usage?
Why wasn't he turned in for over loading his vessel time after time?
What was the number of brain cells is there in his brain pan?
|03-31-2011 08:42 PM|
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
|03-31-2011 08:30 PM|
|Minnewaska||I get 57 people with the formula. You're all invited. Uh, someone needs to bring more beer and/or pfds.|
|03-31-2011 08:13 PM|
Just curious where you located the max load figure?
Originally Posted by PCP View Post
|03-31-2011 08:09 PM|
|souljour2000||Ain't that the truth...just go out into the ICW channels in South Florida on any Saturday and Sunday...probably safer to drive a moped with no helmet thru New Delhi rush hour traffic...but instead I just try to get on the water REAL early and get back in REAL late...me two-foot draft keeps me out of the slot a fair amount too...|
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