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|04-24-2011 09:52 PM|
"You will also want to start learning about sailboat maintenance."
Especially with that budget.
|04-24-2011 09:24 PM|
Originally Posted by PAFireSail View Post
|04-24-2011 08:12 PM|
|WDS123||Send a note to dimitri Orlov - he lives on a minuscule boat in Boston with his wife, for a number of years.|
|04-24-2011 04:46 PM|
Previous, and first, boat was a Paceship PY26. I owned her 6 years very happy with the experience. Nice sailing boat, very manageable for a beginner, and tons of room inside for its length. Seems like it meets most, if not all, of your requirements, including $$.
Good owners website: The Paceship Website Homepage
Here's an example of one for sale in Virginia ($7000):
1978 Paceship PY26 sailboat for sale in Virginia
Another in Rhode Island ($3500):
26 Ft PACESHIP SAILBOAT
Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions regarding the PY26.
|04-24-2011 03:11 PM|
Toilet and shower (shower head, not dedicated shower) generally are 28' and up. $6000 is generally 23' and down. Sailing is full of conflicts like that. 23' is outboard motors, 28' is getting solidly into inboard engines, big change and cost difference. Then there are the sails, would you buy a used car with a used-up engine? The sails are your primary engine on a sailboat, and sails that have good shape and good life left in them will add to your cost, possibly $2000-3000 for a main and genoa in that size range. Yeah, there goes the budget.
So the less boat and less frills you can make do with, the further your budget will go. If you plan to dock at a marina, they'll probably require liability insurance, add the cost of that. Taking a US Power Squadron course or other basic boating safety course may decrease the cost of that, as well.
And beware the "it just needs a little work" cheapies. A little water damage to the chainplates, deck, or keel structure can turn into a major problem. If you're not familiar with these kind of issues, even on a cheap boat you should have a surveyor or other pro take a look at it to make sure you're not stepping into a quagmire.
|04-24-2011 09:36 AM|
28 footer for $1750
Don't know if it is still available but similar abandoned boats are fairly common in marinas and boatyards.
Good thread on a cheap repairs here
As for learning to sail, well it really is not rocket science a day or two out with someone who knows which bit of string to pull and when will get you going. Ask around and you might find somene who will do it for a 6 pack or two. Going offshore is another matter though.
I guess you might be a "dreamer of the day"
|04-24-2011 09:02 AM|
well, lets see. i live aboard. my 30' with over six foot head room is about a perfect fit. in theory she could sleep six, but it would be cramped~me and the occasional guest is about a perfect fit. my turtle smedly doesnt take up much space. lol. while the head/shower are serviceable i generally use the marinas locker room facilities.
she was def. a project boat. Im only pointing that out due to your budget. I happened to get lucky, as they (the marina) had acquired her due to a title lein for nonpayment so they didnt have really anything in her. they wanted fiveish and i ended up getting her for around 35hundo. good luck. if you have local marinas with sales depts i would spend a day climbing around boats-boat people i find are generally nice by nature. i did find that it felt to me that anything 27ish or under were too cramped for comfy living. good luck. feel free to pm me with any questions....
edit-as to $ i should probably point out that i dont know how much ive sunk into her, but its lots.. stereo, grill all new running, redone the cabin, dockbox, tools etc etc etc
|04-24-2011 08:20 AM|
Where will the boat be kept? Living aboard in the northeast is something I wouldn't want to do.
The logistics of living on a mooring are not trivial. Having an inboard so you can charge the batteries in a reasonable time would be valuable. A watermaker will need far more power than the typical solar panel will provide. And how will you empty the holding tank? If you find a mooring with access to a public dock with water and pumpout facilities, that might work.
|04-24-2011 08:03 AM|
I will answer your liveaboard question. 23 foot is going to be hard to live on with the requirements that you mention. There are some tubby 23 footers with a lot of amenities but they are boring to sail. They are heavy unresponsive boats meant for long passage making. You would quickly get bored of sailing if you bought one of those as your first boat. They are also pretty rare and expensive for what you get. The Dana 24 is a perfect example of this type of boat although there are several others have been built over the years.
Now if you move up to a 28-30 foot you are going to start having the typical livaboard amenities. You will get a head, maybe a shower, enough storage for all your possessions, provided you don't have a lot in the way of possessions. There will even be room to have a water maker. Although I water makers are expensive and use a lot of electricity.
Hunters, Catalina's and Beneteau are mass production builders that have been building 28-30 foot boats like these for years. Although in the 70-80s and later there will be many boats that fit into this category. Irwin, Sabre, Oday to name just a few.
The $6000 price limit is going to be tough on a decent boat of this size. Maybe you can cram yourself into a decent 25 footer. No shower, very limited storage, probably a head. If you step up to 10-15000 you can get into a 28-30 foot boat. I agree with some of the prior posters that 23 foot is a nice size to learn on but I would hate to live on it.
|04-24-2011 04:40 AM|
|MARC2012||A small sailboat is excellent to learn sailing on but can learn on larger.Budget is quite tight but we all had to start someplace .Best of luck.marc|
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