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06-03-2011 08:20 AM
yjchun Thanks to your suggestions, I today signed the deal for '86 freedom 30 shoal keel version. It's not in a perfect condition and previous owner ripped everything off the boat not leaving a mooring line, vhf or a spoon but still I am happy to be a freedom owner and will enjoy working with my boat.
will be sailing osaka or around japan for a while after fixing critical problems, give me greetings when you see a freedom 30 somewhere in asia.
05-09-2011 10:15 AM
yjchun Thanks for the advises. I will fly over to check the boats next week. Freedom first as it looks best choice considering price and performance. I will let you members know when I become a new owner.
05-08-2011 07:16 AM
JimsCAL Rather than making a trip that involves an expensive air flight, it might make sense to hire a local surveyor to do an inspection. Would be less costly and you'd get the advice of an expert.
05-08-2011 04:55 AM
nemier Hi Chun,
If distance sailing is in your future plans, I would seriosly consider the Freedom. I have always been intrigued with the stayess rig, perhaps they are the ultimate low maintenace, less worry, option. They have stood the test of time but still get by-passed by most. My guess is that their 'look' is still rather unconventional.

By the way, the Freedom 'rates' the fastest.
The PHRF ratings are:

Freedom 30 - 168
Hunter 30 - 186
IP 27 - 216
05-07-2011 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by yjchun View Post
...I never seen any of above boats yet, and will check them out this month. Since all of them are in different flight range, transportation cost much to check one after another. So I like to make my priority to avoid checking all of them if possible...
Given the expense you will incur to go see the boats, I would require the seller to provide you recent pictures - within the last month if possible, but definitely no earlier than the past year.

An awful lot of boats are listed with old pictures that were taken when the boat is much newer. You could waste a lot of money visiting boats that are misrepresented.
05-07-2011 09:19 PM
bobperry Caleb:
Youn say that to all the guys.
But com sa mi da anyway.
05-07-2011 09:13 PM
CrazyRu Freedom. It is better designed boat.
Here, on US side of world, Freedoms normally are more expensive
05-07-2011 06:54 PM
CalebD Chun,
Good luck in your search for a sail boat.
I can't really comment on these boats from personal experience but you should know that Bob Perry is an accomplished sailboat designer and you are lucky to have his advice.
Robert H Perry Yachts Designers Inc. Home Page

Good luck.
05-07-2011 05:19 PM
jamesdb My concern with the freedom was always that they are a little unusual. They sail well etc etc BUT they will appeal to a smaller audience come resale time making it a harder process to shift IMHO
05-07-2011 04:48 PM
bobperry Chun:
Com sa mi da.
Do not underestimate the upwinf speed of the Freedom. I think it would perform better upwind than the other two boats.
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