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05-09-2011 04:51 AM
Ilenart My ratio would probably be 60% sailing & 40% maintenance. Like some of the other posters I find the maintenance work relaxing; bit like getting away to my shed

I think another issue is how old your yacht is. Newer yachts should have less mnaintenance, whilst anything over 20 years old is going to require regular work.

On the question on whether smaller yachts require less maintenance, I think it partly depends on how much gear / gadgets, etc are on board. A yacht used for daysailing only with icebox, minimal instruments,etc is going to be fairly simple to maintain. However a yacht used for extended passages with fridge / freezer, watermaker, multiple charging (wind gen, solar), lots of instruments, etc, etc is going to require a lot more maintenance. The larger yachts tend to have more gear so this is probably one reason why the bigger yachts require more maintenance.

Ilenart
05-09-2011 01:51 AM
Omatako
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Originally Posted by CaptKermie View Post
Smaller boat = more sailing time.
Yeah I'm not sure I share that philosophy. My boat takes no longer to prepare for a sail than a small boat. I often have 26ft'rs getting to their boats at the same time as me and I'm long gone by the time they have got through bending on sails, stowing cold boxes, etc. I unzip the stac-pac, switch on the fridge, flick the start key and dump the mooring and I'm outta there.

My boat is always in a good condition but it is after all, a tool that I use for my enjoyment. In much the same way as my car has a finite life and suffers from bumps and scratches, so too does the boat. And if I were to run myself ragged about every glass of red wine that is spilled, every scratch that happens, every dent in the cabin sole because a plate was dropped, then it's time to get rid of the thing.

Everything should always work and the critical things should be as reliable as they can and due care will be taken to look after her but the boat was only new once - it'll never be new again. No matter how much you spit-n-polish, time will reduce the value and a shiny 30-year-old is not going to be worth a vast amount more than a well-used 30-year-old. The effort and cost to keep it shiny isn't worth it (unless that's your passion).

As far as costs go, I guess if you want a show-piece you're possibly right. Sure, a bigger boat costs more to maintain but that's because it has more things that can fail so it needs more maintenance, but it's also because all the stuff just costs more. The standard of living that you are prepared to put up while sailing with will govern this. I like to live on my boat like I live at home and I'm prepared to pay for it.
05-08-2011 05:44 PM
TQA
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Originally Posted by Yorksailor View Post
I have friend's who never stop working on their boats...but that is a conscious decision...as they never sail.

I just spent 2 hours cleaning the bottom of the boat and tomorrow I will spend an hour changing the oil. That is the first work on the boat in the last 3 weeks during which I sailed from Miami to St Thomas a distance of 1200 miles.

Phil who loves sailing and hates working on boats.
Thats a serious sail upwind and up current. Which route did you take?
05-08-2011 01:02 PM
CaptKermie On a smaller 24'-28' sailboat the ratio leans more towards sailing time. Between my wife and I both participating we can be underway in 20 minutes and on return have everything put back in 20 minutes. We have it down to routine. The annual maintenance will always be a bit more onerous and I put aside other days to do it when I have nothing better to do. Lots of those days available. It seems the bigger the boat the more work and expense is involved to maintain it. When we are out there I notice most of the others with us are in the same size range as us. Smaller boat = more sailing time. The down side is less overnight cruising due to space constraints, I cannot deal with more than a few nights aboard a small ship.
05-08-2011 07:18 AM
sealover You can be the guy who waxes and polishes his motorcycle and hauls it on a trailer to shows (where he waxes it again) or you can be the guy who mercilessly flogs a 20 year old Honda that hasn't seen a wash mitt since Clinton was in office. Both tell stories, both enjoy riding, but one does a whole lot more of it. In the end both are worth about what you paid for them.
05-08-2011 12:20 AM
sailjunkie
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Originally Posted by Sabreman View Post
I don't begrudge the work at all. If I did, then I wouldn't have a boat because I love a boat that looks nearly pristine. To me, it's a floating sculpture and I'm ok with the work to get it and keep it that way.
Very well said, Sir. I guess I must be a bit nuts, but I actually find boat work to be very relaxing. Our boat may not be pristine, but she still looks pretty nice for a 24 year old boat.

Generally, we schedule dedicated maintenance weekends. Maintenance is kept to a minimum when we go out, but as others have said, there is always something.

That said, the weather has been so crummy this year, that almost every weekend has been a maintenance weekend. It is hard to get motivated when it is p******g rain, cold, and no wind. Finally got out over Easter, with an encore last Sunday. It felt so-o-o good! If we get out every second weekend from here on, I'm a happy man.
05-07-2011 08:19 PM
SJ34 The usual routine is:

Arrive at boat Friday. Remove sail covers and hose the beach sand off the deck. If the weather is nice we'll have a relaxing sunset/evening sail. I keep the tanks topped and engine ready to go so we can be out of the slip in less than half an hr.

Saturday morning have a light breakfast and cast off. Sail Pierpont Bay and maybe down to Oxnard for lunch or dinner.

Sunday morning the covers go back on, any maintenance that needs to be done is done then and home we go.

The routine changes if we're going out to the islands or up to Santa Barbara. On longer voyages we'll cast off around 8 or 9am on Friday and return with the evening winds on Sunday. If we leave much earlier than 8 we'll just be motoring longer before the late morning winds pick up.
05-07-2011 06:36 PM
CapnBilll I can tell you about power boat maintenance. I had one for 7 years. first day back, wont start, no power,work on battery, connections in starter circuit, clean carbs, check topoff oil, clean plugs, tighten belts, replace fuel filters, now it starts. topoff heat exchangers, check impellers, now we can go boating.

boat works great for a couple of days, then park it and come back in a couple of weeks,wont start, repeat.

Wait I forgot; pump water condesate from bottom of fuel tank, dump bad fuel, refill tanks, add 1 gal stabil, (work overtime for a few weeks to pay for gas), come back to boat, repeat above.
05-07-2011 03:50 PM
Sabreman
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I never mix sailing with work.

When there is maintenance to do I go to the boat and do the maintenance and then go home. And I take a lot of maintenance stuff home and do it in the week.

When I go sailing I do no maintenance unless it's something that stops me from managing the boat properly. Then it's step on board, ten minutes to prepare the boat (sail covers, engine checks) and we're gone.
This is very similar to how I approach sailing. I will do work at the dock while the family is around, but it's usually limited to small chores while I'm inevitably waiting on them prior to leaving the dock.

I don't begrudge the work at all. If I did, then I wouldn't have a boat because I love a boat that looks nearly pristine. To me, it's a floating sculpture and I'm ok with the work to get it and keep it that way.

With this said, I'm still not in the water due to a lot of rain in VA and an unexpected problem with the centerboard. We should be in next weekend and cruising by Memorial day.
05-07-2011 03:40 PM
Yorksailor I have friend's who never stop working on their boats...but that is a conscious decision...as they never sail.

I just spent 2 hours cleaning the bottom of the boat and tomorrow I will spend an hour changing the oil. That is the first work on the boat in the last 3 weeks during which I sailed from Miami to St Thomas a distance of 1200 miles.

Phil who loves sailing and hates working on boats.
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