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|05-20-2011 10:47 AM|
I was really, really surprised at the lack of space in the Catalina 27s, especially in the v-berth. Also with the dinette model - it feels like a small and cramped boat inside. If you are looking for something with some feeling of space, I would vote for the twin settee model. My Catalina 25 is a double settee and except for the lower headroom has more interior space than a Catalina 27 with the dinette. (Not that I am advocating the Catalina 25 for your needs.)
|05-20-2011 10:13 AM|
I have no connection with any broker dealers, but spent many months prowling through boatyards. Right now, lockwoods boat works and morgan marina, both on Raritan Bay have some boats which seem to fit your parameters. check their websites. I found the Pearsons to be a bit cramped inside compared to a similar sized O'Day. I bought my boat in November 2009, and it was a buyers market. I don't think it changed much down here.
|05-20-2011 10:02 AM|
I was in a similar situation two years ago. I ended up with a Mariner (New Hampshire) 28. It is very similar to the Sabre, but less well known, so possibly less expensive.
I was looking for an O'Day 28, and still have a soft spot for them, but once you get used to the construction quality of the Sabre (and Mariner) the O'Days seem less desirable. I am in NJ near Sandy Hook.
|05-19-2011 05:36 PM|
|JimsCAL||Looks like you have a busy spring genki! If you haven't already done so, read Sailingdog's sticky at the top of this forum section on Boat Inspection Tips. Maybe a bit more than you want to do, but it does have a lot of good suggestions that might help you eliminate some boats from consideration.|
|05-19-2011 10:24 AM|
Yes I was trying to stay well under 20K but I'm also trying to be realistic and get something that will last a few years and is good to go. I am not much of a handyman although I'm sure I'll be learning soon, with buying a boat.
I've lined up a few other boats to look at, I'm excluding anything with a Volvo(expensive parts) but not Atomic 4 as long as they've had decent maintenance.
1990 Pearson 27
1985 Pearson 28-2
1984 Cal 27 - Yanmar
1974 Catalina 27
1977 Sabre 28
1985 C&C 27
1982 O'Day 28
|05-18-2011 06:07 PM|
The two areas of concern on the P26 are.
1. Rudder bearing/ bushing.
2. Keel bolts.
Make sure that these areas have been attended to.
|05-18-2011 05:50 PM|
And CalebD, yes I am a member of the Hempstead Harbour Club in Club in Glen Cove. Thanks for your kind words about us.
|05-17-2011 11:26 AM|
Guys, thanks so much for all the responses, this is great information. I was completely clueless about where to moor the boat around NYC. Now I will start to call around to check out mooring prices.
I am also going to expand the search to slightly larger cruisers of the following type,
1. Sabre 28 - My first choice. Hard to find good cheaper examples.
2. Pearson 28 - The girlfriend loves the interiors. Don't seem to be many around for less than 20k
3. C&C 27 - Really like these and I've heard they are fast. I've seen a couple of these priced around 15k, one with outboard and racing sails, another with an inboard diesel.
4. Catalina 27 / 28 - Looks like a lot of boat for the money.
5. O'Day 28.
Newport 28 ? Don't know much about these and I've heard the C&C is overall a better choice.
I would include Cape Dory 28 and Tartan 27 but the lines do nothing for the lady.
|05-16-2011 09:07 PM|
NY/LI mooring options
Sunnyside is a bit of hike to City Island + tolls.
JimsCal gave you the link for the Steppingstone facility. They will accept non-Great Neck residents for a slightly higher fee (not sure what it is now). We kept our boat there for 2 seasons and it was a positive experience over all. They do have bathrooms and a snack bar but the rest of the park is for Great Neck residents. Launch service on weekends and otherwise you can dinghy out to your boat. If you do go here make sure you have 2 pennants from your mooring - don't ask how I know this.
There is also a marina near LaGuardia and the fair grounds. It is a bit industrial compared to Steppingstone (SS) and is firmly in the East River while SS is in the westernmost LI Sound with better sailing right there. SS does not provide winter storage for boats (only summer) so you will have to shell out another $1k+ for winter storage somewhere else like City Island.
The next best option (in my opinion) would be the Hempstead Harbor Club which is in Glen Cove. It is a bit of a drive to get there but the Sound is also wider and more open there. HHC is also reasonably priced, has nice members AND has options for winter storage right there. There are some members of HHC on this forum (JimsCal may be a member there for all I know).
In the summer you will probably get to know most of route 25A as the LIE can be a parking lot, especially on Sunday evenings as you probably already know.
People also do put moorings in Little Neck Bay but I know precious little about what costs or clubs are involved with that. I'm also of the opinion that Little Neck Bay is pretty damn shallow and muddy but have no first hand experience to state this as fact. I'd suggest you think about getting a Maptech chart book for the LI Sound which will show you all the marine/marina facilities up and down the Sound. There is also ActiveCaptain which is free if you register to use it that gives similar information.
|05-16-2011 07:12 PM|
|KindOfBlue||I used to own a P26. I sailed her all the time and alway did overnights. It's a bit of a challenge to hang out below for extended periods of time. Sleeping is fine, but if you are anchored for the weekend and it starts raining at noon, you are going to want to find another place to be. A 30 foot catalina is an example of a boat that has enough room and the comforts below to relax with a friend or two while it's raining outside.|
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