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08-18-2006 10:04 PM
sailingdog
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Originally Posted by JohnysRawson30
Boat was registered just in Department of Motor Vehicles, not in USCG. You dont need to put the money to it. Just one window to screw on. And you can use it longer time. Chater the boat, you will pay at last 50usd per day or more. It is for somebody who wants to sail and use it. But it seems that here are just people who dont want to help just waste my time and good will. So good luck to you, and have the same in your life from people around, when you will need to manage something.

If the boat is state registered, do you really expect someone to try and take this boat into a foreign country... without internationally recognized boat papers?

I don't really see us as wasting your time... we're under no obligation to help you.... and we're pointing out valid questions, and you haven't answered any of them to any degree of satisfaction. To get a state registration on a boat, AFAIK, you need to have a legal address in the state. You don't.... so the state registration may not be legal.
08-18-2006 10:00 PM
sailingdog
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingfool
Hellosailer,

I think you may have missed the boat on this thread. We established no documentation at USCG ...and that the posting is a scam...a while ago.

I'm intertested in one comment you made: "And without any papers...the USCG may not allow it to exit the US.." I haven't had my boat out of the USA territory, but I've always assumed that to do so, I just take an Easterly heading and keep going, and nobody in the USA needs to say OK. Is that not true?
It may be true that you can leave the country by just sailing east off the coast into the Atlantic...but you should know that getting back in is likely to be very very difficult. The immigration and customs procedures are very strictly enforced since 2001. If you're going to be leaving the US...and ever want the chance of coming back, then you might want to follow the rules.
08-17-2006 06:05 PM
JohnysRawson30 Boat was registered just in Department of Motor Vehicles, not in USCG. You dont need to put the money to it. Just one window to screw on. And you can use it longer time. Chater the boat, you will pay at last 50usd per day or more. It is for somebody who wants to sail and use it. But it seems that here are just people who dont want to help just waste my time and good will. So good luck to you, and have the same in your life from people around, when you will need to manage something.
08-11-2006 02:33 PM
dirtylittlesecret This is a great thread regarding regulations! Seriously, we all need to be better informed of the limitations or whatelse are out there that might entangle us at the least expected moment. I actually hope we could make a list of these kind of threads just for people to gain awareness and insight.
08-11-2006 01:48 PM
sailingfool Hellosailer,

I think you may have missed the boat on this thread. We established no documentation at USCG ...and that the posting is a scam...a while ago.

I'm intertested in one comment you made: "And without any papers...the USCG may not allow it to exit the US.." I haven't had my boat out of the USA territory, but I've always assumed that to do so, I just take an Easterly heading and keep going, and nobody in the USA needs to say OK. Is that not true?
08-11-2006 01:27 PM
hellosailor Once again...Is the boat documented? You can't gain US documentation, so it will need another national documentation/registration. And if you put NJ state registration on it, there's no assurance that any delivery crew would be ALLOWED to enter another country with it.

And without any papers...the USCG may not allow it to exit the US, and state officials may present other concerns.

It sounds like you still don't understand that unless you meet ALL regulations, state, national, and international, that vessel will most likely be impounded and taken from you. And the folks who sail it into some foreign country, will be held liable for storage and disposal fees if someone doesn't show up on time to take it back OUT of that country again.

Sorry, Johny, but if you are legit on this one, your best bet is to come do it yourself. Take the train or hitchhike to Brussels, fly a cheap carrier like Icelandic into Newark NJ, and you'll be able to sail it away. If you can't afford that--then you probably can't afford the launch fee and the other expenses.
08-09-2006 12:34 PM
sailingdog So, you're expecting whoever uses the boat to put money into a boat that they don't own to repair it. Yeah, right... dream on...you're seriously deluded if you think you're going to get any one skilled enough to take on this project.

Any sailors skilled and knowledgeable enough to be capable of repairing the boat and getting it ready for bluewater is going to stay a long way away from this.

To recap:


You expect the person that will be moving the boat for you to do it for free.

You expect the person to pay for the repairs necessary to make the boat ready for bluewater passages.

You expect that they will handle all the paperwork involved in moving a yatch owned by a foreign national, from the United States, to a foreign country.

And you expect that they will do this merely for the pleasure of using a beatup, and very questionable quality boat that they have no equity interest in, for no compensation.

Yeah, right... good luck with that.
08-09-2006 12:18 PM
JohnysRawson30 I already paid, what I owed to marina for place, 1400usd. So the boat is ready for proper person ,who has interrest. Is on land, so just put it to water , repair what you would consider as needed and go. Thanks. Jan.
07-25-2006 09:30 PM
sailingdog
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Originally Posted by Surfesq
Hello...this is a scam....I am convinced of it. You know he is going to ask you to either accept funds for the payment of the marina fees into your account..which he will ask for. or something like that.
Don't have to tell me that... I'm just playing devil's advocate... I think that this is definitely fishy, as it was posted on eight or nine threads... and the circumstances just sound too bizarre to be legit. Doesn't help that JohnnyRawson30 has only been on the board long enough to post this series of posts...with no previous history.
07-25-2006 09:07 PM
Surfesq Hello...this is a scam....I am convinced of it. You know he is going to ask you to either accept funds for the payment of the marina fees into your account..which he will ask for. or something like that.
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