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06-21-2011 11:57 AM
aimcat Yes have looked at both - realitively the same except for the issue with the Keel on the NA23. NA23 seems to sit higher off the water, has a bigger boat feel. White the Helsen sits lower - also was told it is a short masted boat?
06-21-2011 11:54 AM
Faster aimcat... there's only so much anyone on an online forum can do for you... as has been mentioned you need to get out and look at the boats in question and get a feel for how they look, how clean they are, is everything there that is claimed to be...

Making decisions from a distance is not a good plan.. people do occasionally buy sight unseen but it rarely works out well. Another issue is with today's online availablity of pictures and information, it's nice to have but in no way guaranteed to be current or accurate. The personal look is really an imperative.

So you need to go see the Helsen, compare to the others, factor in the issues either boat will have and try to make an objective decision.. in the end you'll likely go with a) the one that 'speaks' to you, or b) the cheapest one.... option a) will probably be the better one.....
06-21-2011 11:40 AM
aimcat I just wanted to make sure we were getting the best boat. I know all their is to know about power boat makes and models but I dont about sailboats - thats why I thought this forum was here to collectively get help from one another. Wasnt trying to make this complicated for anyone.

Guy says keel line will not go down but if they swim under boat the keel can be moved some, but will not drop down.
06-21-2011 11:37 AM
junkrig Meaning no offense but this is getting too complicated for me. Flip a coin, buy a boat, go sailing.
A stuck centerboard can probably be pried down if you can reach it with the boat on the trailer but if it's iron or steel and all swelled up with rust it will be an endless hassle or a major repair.
Wanna work or sail?
06-21-2011 11:05 AM
aimcat Well the NA23 has a stuck keel which I understand can be something simple or very complicated? I liked the overall look of the NA23 better than the Helsen. What are your guys opinions based on that?
06-21-2011 10:02 AM
junkrig At this point all a remote advisor can say is the usual stuff: go visit the boats. Tap on the deck around hardware with a small hammer or a screwdriver handle and make sure it doesn't sound mushy. Bonk, bonk, not thud thud. Look and see if anything is breaking or falling apart. You already know two opposing things 1: bothj these boats are old and still sailing so they must have been made reasonably well, and 2: both these boats are old and still sailing so they must need some work.
Go with your gut. Life's too short to sail an ugly boat, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
06-21-2011 07:43 AM
aimcat Oh we will have time to sail its just getting away from town to go do it - our lake is 10 minutes away so that wont be an issue. I had picked the Helsen but then I saw the NA23 and thought hmmm....the design of the NA looks better to me? But honestly I want the best sailing, easiest sailing and best build of the two?
06-21-2011 12:33 AM
junkrig If you don't have time to make a 6 hour round trip to get it how will you find time to sail it?
You know you love the H. You know you want it. Go get it. You'll never learn any younger.
06-20-2011 08:04 PM
MarkSF Suggest seeing if your local library has any of these books on small boat purchasing : small cruising sailboats
06-20-2011 07:48 PM
aimcat Easy to sail, durable and good made boat, something that we could learn and keep for the next 2-3 years then move up....?
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