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|08-14-2006 02:19 PM|
sail to power boat ratio
Originally Posted by sailingdog
I just had a great weekend sailing 25 miles to Oxford, MD in two legs. Then we motored back in calm winds Sunday. The last two seasons the power boat wakes are much less down our way on the Chesapeake near Deale. At cruise speed I know that we used less than two gallons of diesel or about 6 bucks. I even buy road diesel for quality and don't worry about the road taxes, just livin' large on a 34 sailboat.
|08-14-2006 07:56 AM|
|sailingdog||Unfortunately, there are far more powerboats out there than sailboats. However, that should be changing if the gas prices stay the way they are.|
|08-14-2006 07:11 AM|
That list is not a bad start but unfortunately, it is not a very good list for sailboats or for used boats. Its missing questions about rigging, electronics, and sail condition. It also does not make the sea trial a condition of the purchase or provide a list of items that you should be observing on a sea trial. It does not discuss a purchase from a private owner.
|08-14-2006 01:52 AM|
This site may help you, it is a checklist.
|08-13-2006 10:52 PM|
|sailingdog||Just remember, even if you buy new, there is a fair amount of work that you'll need to do to get the boat sailable, at least in terms of things you need to customize, re-fit, purchase, and install.|
|08-13-2006 10:45 PM|
Ask some insurers, some will not take a new boat owner (without previous ownership or extensive experience) for anything over 28-30'.
If you can afford something new...by all means. There's a steep penalty to be paid in the depreciation, but it also means you don't have to worry about the neglect and ah, creative maintenance of previous owners. And you can be sailing instead of fixing, at least initially.
OTOH, even with a new boat you want to check it THOROUGHLY, as builders and brokers (who usually do the final prep and mods) have been known to get things wrong. These days, if anyone can take the time to "do it right"...very few people can afford to pay for it.
|08-13-2006 10:21 PM|
Pressurized holding tanks
Originally Posted by camaraderie
Now at least I have one of those Atwood fuel vent surge check valves in the vent line for the holding tank. That way at least the vent screen would get plugged if there is an overfilled situation. When the vent screen plugs you have a pressurized sewage system and no way to release the pressure.
|08-13-2006 10:12 PM|
two heads vs. one revisted
Ok SailingDog, I just returned from a few days on the Chesapeake. We did manage to get by with just one head on the vessel somehow.
Thanks for your additional thoughts on this. From your response to my "less is more ?" post I gather that even from your point of view it really depends on what head components are used and how the head system(s) is/are installed. It really comes down to proper engineering. I have seen multiple head systems installed independently without any shared plumbing. That of course can sacrifice some storage. As the vessel size grows with the same number of occupants, storage space becomes less of an issue. As with so many systems in sailboats and other things, there are always such trade-offs to balance.
Even with mutliple heads sharing a single tank, the inclusion of a few valves can ensure quickly isolating problematic head plumbing to keep the working head operating. Yes, I realize more valves means more maintenance and cost. Spending my boat bucks well towards the head plumbing has been a high priority on my vessels. The head systems are fundamental to the vessel function.
I originally objected to what seemed to be a blanket statement that having more than one head is not a good thing. The takeaway for me is that multiple head systems should be scrutinized for the types of weaknesses that you point out may exist.
Originally Posted by sailingdog
|08-12-2006 11:38 AM|
Thanks... Hey, it ain't my honor, I've got no vested interest in them.
but, ok, so, you eat b'fast where I live to where every new one is floated and be home in time for a second cup of coffee.
FWIW there are a few 32's and 37's on the market too.
|08-12-2006 11:28 AM|
Cardiac... we have friends who have circumnavigated on a Valiant 42 and (once blisters cured), it is a great boat and deserving of its' reputation. So...I will defend your honor! Here's my stolen list of offsore boat candidates (over 30'):
Valiant Yachts, Tayana, Cabo Rico, Pacific Seacraft, Bristol, Shannon, Crealock, Perry, CSY, Norseman, Mason, Moody, Derecktor, Brewer, Hallberg Rassey, Freedom, Passport, Hinckley, Bayfield, Corbin, , Little Harbor, Hood, Westsail, Hinckley, Bowman, Hylas, Camper Nicholson, Cheoy Lee, Cherubini, Hans Christian, Oyster, Westerly, Amel, Nautor Swan, Stevens, Baltic, Cambria, Kelley Peterson, Norseman, Alden, Island Packet, Taswell, Passport, Baltic, Caliber, Vagabond, CT, Formosa
Any others to add guys??
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