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|09-05-2011 01:41 PM|
Originally Posted by merc2dogs View Post
My boat is in a yard only 5 minutes from home but keeping it at home sure would be nice.
|09-05-2011 01:25 PM|
|Boatsmith||C'mon that'll buff right out|
|09-05-2011 12:56 PM|
I've never hesitate to buy a boat in need of serious work. Main consideration for me is if I like the boat and it will meet my needs.
The main reason it works for me is primarily because I can take the boat home, and once it's home it doesn't cost me anything to have it sit there.
If you have to pay storage and yard fees etc, then that increases the cost and reduces the 'value' of the project.
The main consideration is that you LIKE the boat. It's like cars, if you really like a car you can sit back and say: " well, lets see, new engine,trans,, doors, windshield, hood and fenders, bumpers, tires, maybe new axle and it will be as good as new" If you don't like it, you'll say: "%$#@$% busted a fan belt again???!!! that does it, this POS is going to be traded in/sent to the scrap yard."
An example of someone loving a boat is here:
The sad demise of Ensign 796
|08-16-2011 01:26 AM|
Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
Having said that, I've never heard of a FLEET of Hunters having their bottoms torn out by the keels coming off.
This whole keel falling off thing seems to have become damn near commonplace as boats have gotten more high tech. I never heard of it happening before Drum (Simon LeBon's maxi) had the lead slide off the bolts in the channel. Apparently the bolts had been cast in with nothing on the bottom and no J bends and the whole mass of lead just slid off. That was mid 80's IIIRC but over the last decade or so it seems to have become an almost regular occurrence - Engineering anybody?
|08-15-2011 11:17 PM|
|mitiempo||Spend some time on European or UK forums - Bavaria isn't that respected. They are treated like they are a German Hunter.|
|08-15-2011 07:52 PM|
Originally Posted by WDSchock View Post
|08-14-2011 10:38 PM|
Interesting subject - worthy of more than just a thread here. Wasn't the J/80 that had a couple of boats with keels that tore out a big chunk of the hull ?
My impression is that boats which fail prematurely fall into 3 distinct groupings
1) high performance racers
2) floating condominium production cruisers built to a price point
3) very inexpensive entry level cruisers
|08-14-2011 09:21 PM|
What bothers me most about fiberglass boats is how many die prematurely simply because of poor design in a few key areas. Chainplates that penetrate the deck and leak for instance. How many derelicts would still be sailing if not for that problem? Another problem area is that a lot of sailboat designers don't seem to understand that decks on a sailboat are compression loaded from the sides and the ends. The shapes we see don't stand up well to compression loads, and lightweight coring materials make the problem much worse. So the decks crack everywhere and again water gets in. Deck compression under the mast. What a bunch of crap that is. You mean to say no one knows with absolute certainty what the mast loads could be? Keels that fall off, ripping a big hole in the hull, I'm working on my second bad one. No one can calculate the loads on a keel? Maybe manufacturers want them to fail so the new boat market keeps going strong.
Gary H. Lucas
|07-05-2011 10:23 AM|
Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
|07-05-2011 10:22 AM|
|CharlieCobra||Ok, we specialise in the restoration of wooden boats. You folks have seen some of our work up here. We are, however, in the midst of restoring a 1982 Hunter 54 on a budget. Can it be done? Yes. Is it worth it? I cannot tell you that. Considering this was a seizure boat bought on the cheap in a package and that the resto is going to run about 20K or so, what's a fresh H-54 worth? By the way, these boats are built much better than folks give them credit for. I can attest to this having dug so far into one. Good thickness on the decks, tabbed in bulkheads, tough grid system in the hull and a virtually indestructable chainplate cage system. I would sail one anywhere...|
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