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07-07-2011 10:22 AM
zz4gta I'm not a fan of stay set and stay set x for upwind halyards, but if you're running a light dacron main they'll probably work just fine. Here's a good chart for reference. I've used Endura braid, ultra-tech (technora), and VPC (economy jib sheets).
07-06-2011 12:20 AM
mitiempo Where are you on Vancouver Island?
07-06-2011 12:12 AM
CowbaySailor Great idea never knew of such a thing but will ask around and see if someone has one I can borrow.
thanks
07-06-2011 12:07 AM
mitiempo The bosun's chair is the best option as it can easily be used anywhere. You can be hauled up by somebody else or you can haul yourself up with a 4 part tackle and an ascender.
07-05-2011 11:32 PM
Cruiser2B we used a mast mate webbed ladder. worked well...took a few minutes to get used to. secured myself with topping lift and safety harness keeping line taught with cabin top winch
07-05-2011 11:14 PM
CowbaySailor I'm going to replace my main and headsail halyards with rope. I don't like the wire with the wife and kids handling it. So I can buy hi tech rope at work. So how can I inspect my sheaves to see if the rope will go through and the condition the sheaves are in. The bos'en chair is an option, are there any others ?
07-05-2011 10:24 PM
Cruiser2B I recently switched from wire/rope main and jib halyards to all 3/8 sta-set on my alberg 30. It had 5/32 wire on it. I did inspect the sheave at the top and after 40 yrs. no groove. I will be honest and say i have no idea if it was original or not but was exactly the type and material everyone said it would be. I have noticed that i have been have less stretch than before because the rope is in much better shape than the rope/wire halyard. good luck.
07-05-2011 10:11 PM
Spyder I would suggest going with the new Dneema, or its kin. The meat hooks from wire are terribly painful. Hi-tech line halyards last longer and do not stretch at all: set it and forget it! Racing boats are even starting to replace their standing, stainless steel, rigging with this stuff. I replaced everything on my 23' catboat and love it.
Cheers
07-05-2011 10:09 AM
ccriders I converted from wire/rope to all rope using stayset X. The increase in stretch is noticeable and requrires resetting the main after little sailing. If your halyards lead aft to the cockpit this is no big deal but a little pain if singlehanding and you have to go forward to the mast. If I were doing it again I would look at one of the aramid lines even though the smaller diameter can be hard on the hands. You get less stretch (very similar to wire/rope combo) and lighter weight. More money though.
Let us know how you proceed.
John
07-05-2011 10:08 AM
zz4gta Boats used to have wire/rope sheets as well. And boats were made of wood with sails that wouldn't hardly go to winward, but thankfully, we've evolved.

What's the breakdown for your boat? What does the wire cost compared to a rope replacement? You said it is a pretty big step, how much? I never felt that it was a big jump up from wire to rope.
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