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09-05-2011 12:54 PM
samchristo We bought Quantum sails a few years back and have been very pleased with the quality and performance.
We saved a bundle of money by timing the purchase. The sail shops will often discount prices during the winter months when their business drops off. Worth a try...

Good luck,
Sam
s/v Grace PSC34
09-01-2011 12:03 PM
Lansdowne Haase sails make the best sails We have ever seen. I first took a used 110 jib to her, had her recut and reinforce it. Put the 34 into charter fo 10 years, had all our sails checked and repaired every fall. That sail never needed any work, and is still my winter yahoo sail.
Awesome. Will try and post a photo, the work is hard to believe.
08-31-2011 04:18 PM
wmjr
soft shackle

Paul,

There are excellent recent conversations on the Brion Toss web site for using high modulus lines as soft shackles for attaching jib sheets.

John
Watermark
PSC 31 #28
08-31-2011 11:40 AM
Faster
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Originally Posted by okapi3 View Post
...... Right now I have a few loops of Amsteel (supposed to be as strong as steel) tied through the cringle and tied my jib sheets into this. Any other suggestions on attaching them?
What you've done sounds like a good solution. Better than a heavy shackle.

I suppose if you can't get two sheets through the cringle you won't be able to do a lark's head attachment either.... (ie fold a single (double length) sheet at the mid point, feed that through and pull the two sheet ends through the bight)
08-31-2011 11:04 AM
okapi3 Here's my follow up. I went with the Rolly Tasker 130%, 7.3 oz Dacron, padded luff and Sunbrella UV protection for $1550 plus $32 shipping. Arrived on time and looks very nicely and sturdily made. Just sailed with it for 2 days and works well, points much better than my old bagged out genoa. The one thing that leaves me perplexed and a bit annoyed is the clew cringle is too small to tie both my 9/16" jib sheets into like I did on my old sail. I will write to them and ask about it but it's too late to change now. What were they thinking? That I would be using expensive thin racing lines or something? Right now I have a few loops of Amsteel (supposed to be as strong as steel) tied through the cringle and tied my jib sheets into this. Any other suggestions on attaching them?
08-26-2011 07:22 PM
Faster
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Originally Posted by okapi3 View Post
.... Fortunately I don't need this sail in a hurry, .....
Good luck in your decision, but here's a bit of advice.... don't EVER tell ANY marine professional that 'you're not in a hurry'. .. New sail deliveries will run 6 -8 weeks pretty well everywhere, including online lofts such as FX (worth checking their quote too...)
08-26-2011 07:06 PM
DosMarinaros Paul:

We would suggest that you contact Carol Hasse of Port Townsend Sails in Port Townsend, WA, for advice and a price quote; 360-385-1640 or Port Townsend Sails .

Hasse fabricated the suite of sails for both our Crealock 34 and 37, and they were exquisitely made. We wonít go any where else when it comes time to purchase or recut the sails on a boat we own.

The Cruisiní Cronins
Melisse & Tim Cronin

s/v Ruby
Pacific Seacraft
Dana 24 No. 101
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"Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous people, for they may act their dream with open eyes and make it possible." Ė T.E. Lawrence
07-17-2011 10:37 PM
Pegasus34 A couple of years ago we purchased a 130 for our PSC34 from Charlie at Dorsal Sails in Sturgeon Bay, WI. I recall we spent about $2,200 and have been very happy with the sail.
07-17-2011 10:34 PM
okapi3 I believe I'm one of the 75% who won't know the difference. I won't be racing, just cruising, but I want something that points well and can stand up to offshore conditions and the captain's lack of experience, and won't need to be replaced for a long long time. I guess I will recognize a "good sailmaker" by how many questions he asks. Fortunately I don't need this sail in a hurry, I've got other headsails I can make due with until I find what I'm looking for (but that assumes I know what I'm looking for).
07-17-2011 06:50 PM
mdbee Sails are very complex creatures. There are many variables when buying one. Certainly the cloth is one item but even that can be hard to compare, with the limited information most lofts give you. (for that matter some don't have a clue about some of the more technical issues of the cloth) There are many different types of cloths than come under the same broad name. (have you ever tried to compare bed mattresses?)

There is also the issue of where you normally sail, local conditions, how you sail (racer, cruiser) how much wind you are comfortable with. How often you sail...

There are many dimensions to measure as well. Your old sail measurements. Also,whether you were happy with it. Pictures even of your old genoa while under sail can even be of help in designing a new sail. A minimum of about half dozen (closer to a dozen) measurements of your boat and it's rigging.

The list is almost endless that a good sailmaker will ask you.

On the other hand 75% of people won't know the difference and can buy something off the shelf with the "standard" measurements. And admittedly, some people go a bit overboard.
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