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08-28-2011 12:36 PM
CalebD I am with DRFerron on the shrink wrap issue.
Save your money and buy some tarps instead. Even a half assed tarp job can keep most of the snow and ice out of your cockpit. We leave the rig up and use the boom to drape the tarp over and mount the spin pole over the fore deck.
Easy to do and way less then $100.
08-28-2011 09:25 AM
veprjack Donna,

Thanks - I've been told that if you don't wrap, water finds itself into EVERY possible crevice and will raise hell when it freezes - delamination, etc. My thought was that, as long as one keeps the snow off, it would be OK - and that a "little" snow helps insulate? Also, how about the additional storage? I was thinking of those large tupperware containers for a number of rust-resistant items?

My friends had a 50' Gulfstar and were passionately against shrink wrapping and never had an issue so... I'd rather avoid it and use the $ for other stuff, but if there's truth to some of the FEAR associated with NOT wrapping, this newbie is afraid to make a costly error. Common sense tells me that, with care to shovel, etc. it wouldn't be a big deal to NOT wrap - it's just a convenience (and can contribute to mold, as you pointed out). The "cool factor" of having a nice greenhouse to sit out on sunny days in t-shirt and shorts when it's 20 degrees outside?? Well, a lot of people (even pro-wrappers) say then NEVER get to use it, other than maybe for a little extra storage. If you are diligent, the stories of people trapped inside by the snow/ice on the companionway hatch, etc. can easily be avoided.

Maybe we should start a separate thread for this? I'll search the threads - must be some heated (pun intended) debates on this!

Whether I decide to go wrapped or not, I appreciate your comments and advice. Then again, I'm not wrapped too tight myself, so maybe if I wrap my home???? lol...
08-28-2011 09:10 AM
Shrink Wrapping

Originally Posted by veprjack View Post
... shrink-wrapping...,
Shrink wrapping didn't give us anything other than a lot of mold. We did it the first year and not again. The first year we owned the boat I went to the marina in January, looked around and saw that more than half the boats were not shrink wrapped. I asked the marina managers and they don't wrap their own boats so we decided to follow their lead.

The only advantage I saw was that snow slid off instead of accumulating on the deck.

Now no mold, we're saving about $600 in winterizing costs and not contributing more plastic to the environment.
08-28-2011 07:22 AM
Originally Posted by glassdad View Post
VEPRJACK: thing to keep in mind is to allocate about 25% of the purchase price for maintenance and other things you need to make the boat yours. When we got Odyssey, I thought that number was going to be high. It was spot on. It seems that whatever you buy, it still needs more.
Great advice! I'm already looking at replacing engine hoses, fixing the important "auto setting" on the bilge pump (or replacing/adding a second one to it), winterizing everything with living aboard in mind, shrink-wrapping, repack rudder post, restrapping engine, tracing an engine coolant leak (fwd) to fix it, and repair/maintenance on a few things I'm sure will pop up. Depending on the "severity" of the diagnoses on a few things, I think we're talking at least $3,000 initially, which is over 10% of the purchase price - already! I don't have any issue with it - want it to be safe and not let things slide to where they become a MAJOR problem.

Thanks again,
08-28-2011 02:21 AM
glassdad VEPRJACK: thing to keep in mind is to allocate about 25% of the purchase price for maintenance and other things you need to make the boat yours. When we got Odyssey, I thought that number was going to be high. It was spot on. It seems that whatever you buy, it still needs more.
08-24-2011 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by tomperanteau View Post
Yes, I've seen it. We are taught, through whatever means you want to believe in, that we need more and more. Not true for most of us, but this is the brainwashing that we receive over time, and through television programs, over time.

Yep, Carlin's genius was almost, genius.

We sold our stuff by hanging signs on posts and on Craigslist (thanks Craig). I'm still selling things that I collected over the years, too. I have had an affinity for Commodore Computers for many years, as these are the machines I learned on. I'm still selling off my stuff. Even though we have no home, I still have some of this in the attic at our office.

I also still have some CB equipment that I collected over the years. Still selling/giving away that, too.

It has become to me; "what ever it takes". We are planning a Pacific voyage, and I know what I have to do. I have to put aside my emotional attachments and sell this stuff so that we can close the office and get away, so whatever it takes.

A new chapter in life and a new love, so I take LOTS of pictures and store them so that I can view them as I want when I am off shore.

Hope this helps, but as the evening wears on my Scotch on the rocks will tend to blur my better (writing) judgment.
Fantastic read. My thoughts exactly. Im almost 50 and we have so much STUFF it depresses me to walk threw the house at times. Yes most of it is the Wife and kids. Been on a boat hunt my self. Right now I just rent and sail.
I will no the boat for me when I see. Lots of tired boats out there that look so dang good in there add pics. Kinda pisses me off when I waste my time to go have a look at them.
08-04-2011 07:12 AM
veprjack Jim,

I'm trying to keep a leash on my impulsive nature. If I can hold off until September, there will be more selection and better prices? Having said that, I think I've narrowed it down to Pearson - the P30, 303, etc. The Catalina 30 has more room for living aboard, but I just like/prefer the Pearson. Tomorrow I'm going to look at a 303 that has been customized with stack pack, new head-sails-paint, - electronics galore, etc. I am almost hoping I don't like it, because it looks like it might be THE ONE - lol... I'm supposed to look at a Sabre 30 on Saturday that is the same price as the 303, but it needs some cosmetic work and doesn't have 1/2 the upgrades/toys as the 303. If I like the Pearson, even if I don't make an offer, I will probably not bother looking at the Sabre. In fact, if this Pearson isn't THE ONE, I should probably just do research and not take a chance of "falling in love" and buying prematurely. Hey, it's only 4 weeks until September, when boaters start to feel the cool air signalling "the end"... lol...

If logic wins out, I'll WAIT - because I'll have a bigger budget (could afford $33K just for the boat, exclusive of taxes, insurance, etc.) and most people advise me that if I can wait until September, it would benefit me.
08-03-2011 11:40 PM
Originally Posted by djodenda View Post
I had a Catalina 30 for 5 years. I think that 11 HP isn't enough to drive the boat to hull speed in anything other than flat water. I wouldn't get one that had less than 15 HP, and the 20 HP Universal Diesel I had on mine was just fine.
08-03-2011 10:02 PM
JimMcGee Jack,
Have you settled on a boat or are you still looking?

08-03-2011 12:41 PM
Originally Posted by veprjack View Post
Tom, did a real quick check on your Footprints Site - very nice! Thanks for the advice and encouragement. I WILL get rid of things I really don't need - repeat many times as I look around at ALL this STUFF!
Thanks. I don't post enough, but it is a log of what we have done and are doing to prepare for our extended voyage.

I understand - we had a LOT, too. It was heartbreaking in many ways, but without shedding things, there was no way to enter into a new chapter in our lives.
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