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08-04-2011 04:43 PM
lapworth Two bulls are sitting on top of a hill looking down at herd of female cows. The young bull says to the older bull " Lets run down and see how many cows we can have before we get tired ". The older bull replies " Lets walk down save our energy and have them all ".
08-04-2011 03:19 PM
ftldiver your budget is 3k? or you will have double that amount? (selling 2 boats).

where are you located and where do wish to go?

you can't be in a hurry if you want to sail... in sailing its more about getting there.

in a powerboat its more about what you do once you get there.

its also more work to sail, but you typically get more for your money. especially when you start looking at boats over 30 feet.

you can get a lot of sailboat for 30k.

then there are the powersailers, like the new macgregor M (can plane in good conditions avg ~14knts )
08-04-2011 08:37 AM
smallboatlover that helps a lot thanks i will deff get a sailboat next year an get rid of the other two boats
08-04-2011 07:31 AM
Minnewaska My bicycle will go faster than 99% of the powerboats that I've been on. If you want to get somewhere fast, boating isn't the answer. I find the idea that a power boat is fast to be funny.
08-04-2011 07:12 AM
SHNOOL Ok, so you asked a sailing forum to decide between motor and sail boats? heheheh

Motorboat = boat goes fast, boat goes slow, turn wheel, boat goes fast, boat goes slow, oh no, motor no work... whoopsie!
Sailboat = Ok Vang on, backstay tighten, puff coming, point higher, ease off, speed up some, is the depth good this close to the island?, am I making better speed than x over water? If the wind picks up to 15 knots, what settings will I need? weather report says calm wind becoming 15-20... etc.

Yes sailing is very mental! It can be as simple, or as complicated as you like... add racing (even just for fun) to it, and it becomes a barage of variables to manipulate, and be manipulated by.

Enough of that... My decision was a Capri 22. My lake does not allow overnighting (I know dumb). However, my criteria was, keel, enough room for 2 to overnight, decent sailing performance, and about as big as I could easily get and still single handedly trailer, rig, and sail.

The capri is mostly a day sailor.... It DOES have a decent sized V-berth, and a porta pottie. You could also put a rail BBQ on it (I may depends). It sails like a dream, and I have the wing keel, so getting it on and off the trailer on a normal ramp for my RAM 2500 is easy enough, without much hoopla.

I second the Catalina 22, in that it is quick, plentiful, has nearly as many controls as my capri, sails decent, parts are cheap, and it it laid out a little better down below than mine (mine is just basically 2 berths and a V berth), the Cat 22 has a nice table/setee setup.

Cat 22 will run you anywhere from 1500 with a trailer in decent shape, to 4500 for boats around 20 years old. Capri's like mine, if you want slightly faster, can be had (again 15-20 years old) $3000-$6000.

Hope that helps.
08-04-2011 12:33 AM
Cal28 or a Ranger 23 ...

replacing all the standing and running rigging for less than $1000 ... enough room inside to sleep overnight ... water tank ... a portable camping stove and ice chest ... good responsive boat ... that you should be able to easily pick up within your budget ...
08-03-2011 11:07 PM
Sublime You could look at something like a Catalina 22 and have a portable stove.

Powerboating is fun, but I get bored with it pretty quickly. There's not much mental stimulation. I can have a conversation with friends while sailing without yelling.
08-03-2011 10:59 PM
bgeddes I have less than $3k in my boat and we sleep on it every weekend. We have a cooler and portapotty (we don't use), and don't bother cooking much. Plenty to eat without all that effort, just takes some planning. We are 18' of waterline and plenty for two. $25 worth of groceries and and beer for the weekend and we are set.

In my search this summer I found TONS of boats in the $2-3K range, some were ok, others I was not sure would even float. There are thousand dollar boats that are sailable but in need of a lot of work, mostly elbow grease and cleaning supplies.

I would have preferred a boat about 22' instead of 19', but this was the best boat we saw for the money. We planned on spending a fair amount of money to get the boat prepped for the water. That was good advice from lots of folks and we are far better prepared because of it. Other good advice was avoid a gadgetitis. You don't need a boat full of electrical goodies and gadgets to go sail. Save that money making the boat sail better and safer.

Thanks to this site and others, we are enjoying a season of sailing in preparation for a new life aloat.
08-03-2011 09:24 PM
Siamese Sailing and powerboating both take place on the water. After that, the similarities are of little consequence, and the two types of boats get compared to each other way too often.

Sailing is a sport. Powerboating is a boat ride.

You decide.
08-03-2011 08:58 PM
HDChopper I've has a 18' Sidewinder PB with a 150 hp racing / illegal outboard on it did 50 mph eazy & fun but the GAS !!! fill it up and only play 1 hour at full pwr you could milk it but speed was the point ..

It's going to be sailing or nothing for me now
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