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08-25-2011 11:55 PM
SlowButSteady
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Originally Posted by svHyLyte View Post
...We had a Raynav LORAN that was 20 years old but worked extremely well as a back-up for our GPS devices but of course the Feds killed LORAN to support the welfare state.
... and just think of all those skilled instrument makers who were left high and dry when the Navy (not to mention the Army and Air Force) stopped buying sextants. The nerve of them!!

And, come to think of it, where did all the all the money go that the military doesn't spend on radial aircraft engines, cannonballs, sabers, and carbon paper??? Well? WELL???

(I would have replied sooner, but it's a bit difficult operating a computer with a fountain pen.)
08-25-2011 04:27 PM
SloopJonB I've always been more of a KISS sailor, never been a big fan of electronics on a boat - working with computers all day was more than enough - I went out on the water to get away from phones, radios, gizmos etc. A sounder, a Windex and telltales were enough for me

Now having said that and having done a fair bit of cruising on a friends boat with a big Raymarine chart plotter at the helm, I absolutely HAVE to have one, the biggest I can afford. That C80 is absolutely magical! I was never a big fan of navigating, always preferred the boathandling - navigation was just a necessity (the islands, currents, tides and waters here are a navigators nightmare). Having a big plotter on board reduces the essential navigation to occasional cross checks to ensure the plotter is still telling the truth.

If your sailing area requires you to have your chart in the cockpit with you, you will absolutely LOVE a big plotter, trust me.

I regard them as the navigational equivalent of fiberglass for boats.
08-22-2011 09:47 AM
CaptainForce
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Originally Posted by Leli View Post
..................The size of the yacht also affects the cost of electronics...
This may be the practice and the choice, but not often a necessity. Cetaintly, Depth sounders, radars, GPS and VHF do not function differently depending on the size of the boat with the exception of some lengths of wiring runs, but that's not cost significant. The size and expense of the auto pilot can be related to size, with the exception of big boats with hydraulic steering that can use "smaller" auto pilots with less mechanical force. Most often I see people with more freedom to spend do spend more, but not out of necessity. My cost of electronics is more closely related to my "over forty" eyesight and desire to read my bigger screen without my reading glasses!Take care and joy, Aythya crew
08-22-2011 06:55 AM
Leli Thanks guys for your feedback!

It seems that everything depends on what you choose to have onboard and the maker. I had the impression that electronics do not last longer than 8 yrs... that good news! Yes, I think 10k is the average expenditure when aiming for an MFD, wind/speed/depth/temp instruments, some repeaters, a GPS receiver, an autopilot, Radar, and a VHF system. The size of the yacht also affects the cost of electronics...

Thanks again,
Leli
08-19-2011 02:42 PM
olson34
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Originally Posted by PaulfromNWOnt View Post
Forgot to mention a radio in my earlier post. My handheld cost me another 72 dollars.
Extra Points, Paul! Why didn't I think of that?

I should have also mentioned that, over the decades, we are on our second handheld VHF, and would not leave the dock without it.

Notably, the original (installed in '88) Furuno fixed-mount VHF in our boat still works perfectly. Kudos to the first owner for picking it. I take it in for an annual free bench-check and the dealer refuses to sell me a new one, saying that mine is well built and right on the power output and frequencies.

Cheers,
LB
08-19-2011 01:37 PM
PaulfromNWOnt Forgot to mention a radio in my earlier post. My handheld cost me another 72 dollars.
08-19-2011 01:05 PM
olson34 Lots of great advice so far.
One little facet I might mention is establishing a Priority of the sailing info that you need vs. what you might want.

Around the NW, the main thing everyone needs is a reliable depth readout. With that and a paper chart and your everyday ability to take a bearing, you can be fairly sure of where you are. And since running aground is the major cause of recreational boaters' heartburn and bleeding from the wallet, a good DS is always the first thing we need.

Next is the fun stuff, like speed and wind data. The addition of wind data is wonderful as eye candy, but the speed stuff adds to your navigation arsenal. (Yeah, I know... the handheld GPS will give you SOG info, but that's still not boat speed...)

The instrument makers know this, and commonly bundle their data packages into a speed/depth combo that nowadays can use a single transducer, and for more money, will sell you a depth/speed/wind package at a discount.

I bought the Raymarine ST60 package in '02, and it's been reliable & trouble free so far. (If I were skint, I would have the speed & depth package instead.)

One caveat is to beware of bit players in this market selling poorly-engineered stuff and then bailing out on the customers...
Stick to the stronger long-term companies like Raymarine or Furuno, with good tech support and basic product engineering for salt water usage on board actual boats.

Opinions rendered on the hour, deposit one virtual cent!

LB
08-19-2011 12:21 PM
BarryL Hey,

As others have mentioned, it's really up to you. Does 'Electronics' mean below decks autopilot, radar, speed, depth, and wind displays, a large chartplotter at the helm with another display below, integrated to a DSC VHF radio and AIS transponder, or does electronics mean a hand held GPS and depth display?

Lastly, who will be installing the gear? You can easily DOUBLE the cost of the gear by paying for installation and using fancy Edson mounts.

Gear seems to be reliable. Most of the time I think stuff gets changed to take advantage of new features, like DSC radios, broadband radar, fishfinder / sonar displays and that stuff.

Barry
08-19-2011 11:48 AM
PaulfromNWOnt Short answer: It depends on what you want and expect.

I'm using an old handheld GPS to give me ballpark position in LAT/LON to go with my paper charts as well as an indication of speed. I'm also using a fishfinder with the transducer set in a ball of wax to give me depth.

All together I'm into my electronics "suite" for around 200 bux, and expect it to last a few more years. If I want something more feature packed, it will require some serious spending on a 22 foot boat that could be put to better use elsewhere.
08-19-2011 11:12 AM
emoney It's a good question and definitely something every potential owner needs to consider. Although not a "requirement" in order to sail, there's a huge "need" to have them. I'm about to replace the electronics on my Newport and I'm looking at a minimum $500.00 if I get a basic GPS/Depth finder, to as much as $2000.00 in order to pick-up an autopilot and basic wind/weather info. And hey, I'm going the cheap route. Electronics are like anything else "big boy toy" related; you can spend as much as you can afford as I know guys that will tell you they have $10k and want to add more. Wouldn't suprise me that this figure is closer to the average cost. If you can count on them for 10 years, then you're looking at $1000 annually.
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