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04-17-2012 06:19 AM
Splendide
Re: Beneteau First 40 compared to Wauquiez Centurion 40s

I believe the truth will be in the middle with a dry weight at around 8200 kg.
For racing the Splendide shows good results on long distance racing...
First in ORC 2 on the Collin archer Memorial race 2010 (540 miles spinnaker up) see Stichting Colin Archer Memorial Race - Uitslagen 2010
and First in ORC 2 on Scheveningen-Brest (Race and Rally) in 2011, also making number one overall!
See: Brest 2011.

Proud Owner
Gert Jan
04-17-2012 12:08 AM
blt2ski
Re: Beneteau First 40 compared to Wauquiez Centurion 40s

Forgotten about this thread......

Amazingly enough, had a chance to sail on I believe Chillwales boat the first weekend in March doing a local race. have to say I was VERY impressed with how fast she sailed. Took 2nd in that race, both division and OA! This one does have the DEEP draft, as here in puget sound draft is not usually an issue.

Hopefully I can get out on her some more, when not racing my 30'r.

Marty
04-16-2012 02:39 PM
Aac
Re: Beneteau First 40 compared to Wauquiez Centurion 40s

Interesting Girt

I did a quick search and in some cases I find a dry weight of 8600 Kg and in others 7600; ie. here

The same as Sailing World here which has "At 16,755 pounds and with this long waterline, this Centurion 40s is proportionally lighter than other racer cruisers although still no ultra-light. Ballast makes up 36 percent of this displacement and the low center of gravity bulb type keel helps keep this boat on its feet when the breeze is up."

Checking on the Wauquiez site I see 8600Kg dry weight for the new 40S.2; so I guess you are right according to the source.

I must say I am surprised as the weight minus the keel comes out at 4800 Kg for the case of a dry weight of 7600Kg. Dont know where the extra 1000Kg is; is it all fiber glass or is Wauquiez trying to sell the boat as blue water cruiser somehow with a little exaggeration.
04-16-2012 12:43 PM
Splendide
Re: Beneteau First 40 compared to Wauquiez Centurion 40s

Hi Marylin,
We have a 40S 2006 with Volvo three blade folding prop. Works very good!. make sure its the correct direction (The Volvo is left turn, the Yanmar i don't know).
In addition to the Story: the Centurion 40S is built heavier than the the first brochure. Our 40s is over 9 tons of weight with teak decks, shallow keel and electric winches. Despite the extra weight, she is fast, especially downwind. In the beat we suffer the shallow keel...

Regards
Gert Jan
01-23-2012 12:48 PM
PCP
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marilyng View Post
Hi Chillwales we have just purchased a 2005 Wauquiez Centurion 40s and would like to speak to owners for some advise. We would like to change our prop from a fixed to a 3 bladed flexofold and would like to know if there is a part number
Congratulations. That's a great cruising boat. You can ask directly to wauquiez, they still make the boat, now with a 2 wheel setup.

Regards

Paulo
01-22-2012 10:48 PM
blt2ski
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marilyng View Post
Hi Chillwales we have just purchased a 2005 Wauquiez Centurion 40s and would like to speak to owners for some advise. We would like to change our prop from a fixed to a 3 bladed flexofold and would like to know if there is a part number
The last tie Chillwales posted was the date of above, and has not logged in since august either. With that in mind, his boat name I believe is "Different Drummer". Not sure what a search will do, but he does fairly well racing here in the NW! He has a phrf of 81, which puts him in competition with some well sailed lighter smaller boats.

As a comparison, while there are not 1st 40's listed as racing in the local directory, some of the older 40.7's have a rating of 57 and 60, so roughly 20-24 secs a mile faster. Not sure how much faster a 1st 40 is in comparison to a 40.7. I believe faster, but how much per mile.......

marty
01-22-2012 11:16 AM
Marilyng Hi Chillwales we have just purchased a 2005 Wauquiez Centurion 40s and would like to speak to owners for some advise. We would like to change our prop from a fixed to a 3 bladed flexofold and would like to know if there is a part number
08-27-2011 12:12 PM
chillwales Interesting comparison. I have a Centurion 40s which we have been actively racing in the Pacific NW. We didn't buy it to race, but we fell into that four years ago. Had I wanted an out and out racer, I would have bought something different. But the fact is, we do very well, particularly in distance races and 15 knots or more of wind. We have a lot of class wins in big races against good boats.
03-09-2011 04:22 PM
PCP
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Originally Posted by Aac View Post
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Anyway, the Centurion 40s was first built in 1998 (I think) and I find it interesting that 10 years later a very similar hull is being used on the First 40. These companies must be using the same finite element analysis software.
I believe the Centurion 40 is a 2003 boat (it was Sailing world boat of the year).The First 40 is a 2008 boat and many believe that Farr was not very innovative with it, particularly in the stern design that looks a bit outdated.

| Sailing World

But yes we can say that those hull lines lasted a lot more than what is usual in those days of fast changes, so much that they can be considered already a kind of classic type. For instance, the Salona 41 is not very far away from that pattern and the truth is that the First 40 and the Salona 41 are still top contenders in the regatta world.

Regards

Paulo
03-09-2011 02:40 PM
Aac Thanks Paulo; didnt notice the CR.

I think the relative aft placement of First 40 mast is to allow for a larger blade jib for pointing. The Centurion being a Cruiser-Racer probably has the mast further forwards to allow for a bigger main and an overlapping jib - #2 say - with the jib not meant to be changed often by Cruisers.

Anyway, the Centurion 40s was first built in 1998 (I think) and I find it interesting that 10 years later a very similar hull is being used on the First 40. These companies must be using the same finite element analysis software.
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