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12-20-2012 01:28 AM
randyrhines
Re: Somebody got caught on the outside

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
Anybody know what make of boat that is?
Looks like one of those Hunter special offshore models......
07-06-2012 10:33 PM
melee401
Re: Somebody got caught on the outside

well he is dead now.
A final posting on is FB by a friend points out his body was found in a marina. Despite any and all mistakes he may have made in his life he was sailor who loved sailing. RIP Capt,,,,,fair winds and following seas.
09-14-2011 01:51 AM
rgscpat Given that most cats are decent navigators, I don't think Meka the cat was in charge or should be blamed for the wreck of the Hunter.

Sailing this boat with this crew off the anchor would seem unlikely to have succeeded.

Cutting the chain with an angle grinder in any sort of wind and seaway seems extremely unlikely to work.

The modern Hunters may actually be better built and engineered than the ones of the 80s; familiarity with the older models might account for some "bashing".

After slogging through this and other threads and related articles, it seems we still don't have answers to some basic questions about what happened. Do we know exactly why the boat left the marina initially and its exact condition? Also, do we know much about Michael's sailing experience before he got the boat in January 2010 (beyond the "20 years")?

Sometimes it's hard to tell whether some of the speculation is subject to set, drift, leeway, deviation, variation, projection or scale error. But it does seem to at least have plenty of scope out.
09-13-2011 07:46 PM
xymotic And the plot Thickens:
Sailboat beached during Irene destroyed by fire
09-13-2011 08:58 AM
JonEisberg
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Originally Posted by chrisncate View Post

Are you going south on the ICW this year Jon? Just wondering..
Well, I plan to head south, but hopefully not too much via The Ditch... South of Morehead City, I try to stay outside as much as possible, but of course the Weather Gods usually have something to say about that during the winter...

As much as I love my engine, doesn't mean I enjoy motoring... (grin) And as much as I love the Waterway, given the late start I typically get headed south, I'd rather be making tracks under sail outside...
09-13-2011 12:02 AM
JonEisberg
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Originally Posted by CalebD View Post

So all I want to know is when you (Jon) are heading down to the Bahamas again? November or December?
November??? You're kidding, right? Maybe in my next life, will I be able to head south with my own boat that early in the fall... (grin)

Once again, probably won't be until close to or after the Holidays before I get going - weather permitting, of course...

So, when are YOU gonna make the trip?
09-12-2011 08:43 PM
CalebD Yes, these were written a number of years ago but I am sure that Jon's cat did not write them:
An Insider's ICW | Cruising World
Captain Jon's Murderers' Row | Cruising World
Through the Croatian Looking Glass | Cruising World
The Winter Thaw | Cruising World

So all I want to know is when you (Jon) are heading down to the Bahamas again? November or December?
09-12-2011 08:11 PM
casey1999
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Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Thanks, but you would be quite mistaken about that, of course... (grin)

Given the level of interest in this story, I thought some might be curious to view their blog...

It corrects some misinformation previously reported (they departed Florida in July of 2010, and not this summer, for example)

And it would appear to confirm what some of us have suspected, the boat was primarily a dwelling, rather than a boat seeing regular use and ready to outrun a major storm... And, obviously, not under the command of a skipper with 20 years of sailing experience, as originally claimed...

Not to mention, his blog answers the question so many have asked - what sort of anchors was he using? (grin)
I am a little confused, is the boats name "Bella" or "Maybe Tomorrow"? From what I see Mike did do some sailing. Actually probably a lot more than most people that call themselves "sailors". Blog has not been updated for a while so leaves some questions. Looks like he has had is share of problems that some routine maintenace and some more sailing experience/lessons would take care of. Looks like the boat has seen more use than the average boat. Take a look at the boats at your marina, I'll bet 50% only move once a year or less.
09-12-2011 07:52 PM
JonEisberg
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Originally Posted by PorFin View Post
+1. This is getting stale, and the "holier than thou" attitudes are growing tiresome. I don't understand why some folks enjoy schadenfreude as much as they do.

I feel sorry for them, even if they were the architects of their own troubles. No need to run them down any more than they already are.

Jon -- if it will get you to stop, then you are hereby officially the smartest, wisest, most experienced, and best all round sailor I've ever known or will ever meet. Good enough for you?
Thanks, but you would be quite mistaken about that, of course... (grin)

Given the level of interest in this story, I thought some might be curious to view their blog...

It corrects some misinformation previously reported (they departed Florida in July of 2010, and not this summer, for example)

And it would appear to confirm what some of us have suspected, the boat was primarily a dwelling, rather than a boat seeing regular use and ready to outrun a major storm... And, obviously, not under the command of a skipper with 20 years of sailing experience, as originally claimed...

Not to mention, his blog answers the question so many have asked - what sort of anchors was he using? (grin)
09-12-2011 03:15 PM
MikeWhy (Jon has a lot to contribute. Getting him riled is the surest way to learn something. )
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