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10-23-2011 01:10 PM
LakeSuperiorGeezer
O'day Day Sailer

I have an O'day Day Sailer. I would not recommend it for single hand sailing as the jib sheets are too far from tiller. I have to let go of the tiller to work the jib sleets. It will carry 640 pounds of crew. It is possible to step the mast by yourself, but you have to attach a 3 foot long line to the jib halyard where it normally attaches to the sail The other end of the 3 foot line attaches to the stemhead which is just aft of the hole where you attach the forestay which normally holds the mast in position along with the two sidestays. You then walk the mast up and when it is nearly up, pull on the jib halyard and then cleat it off so you can go to the front of the boat to attach the mast forestay. As with sailing this boat, itís a lot easier for two people where one walks the mast up and another person attaches the forestay while you hold the mast up. I also have owned a Flying Junior (also known as the FJ) and think it a better boat for one person to sail. The FJ is also large enough for two and it is easier to step the mast.
10-21-2011 11:52 AM
CarbonSink62 I learned on an O'Day Widgeon 13; it was a good boat to learn on because it had most of the controls common to all sloops (2 halyards, 2 sheets, outhaul, downhaul) but I wouldn't recommend buying one because you can't really bring much with you. A 13' boat will be too small by the time you've learned how to sail it.

I'd recommend a 15-16 centerboard sloop. I'm thinking of the O'Day daysailer, but that's just the one that I'm familiar with. Very easy to tow, set up, launch & retrieve. Plus it is small enough to move with a 6' paddle. But it is big enough that a fairly skilled skipper could take a guest or two out for a day sail and return them dry (9 times out of 10 ).

Also 2 people that really like to sail and aren't afraid to tumble into the water can sail the ever lovin' snot out of it! You could sail it for years and it would still be fun. I still miss my Luger 16
10-18-2011 06:04 PM
Arpegecap Do you usually sail by yourself? If so, a Laser is a good choice. If you bring a friend or friends and maybe a pic-nic, the much larger O'Day is a great choice as is the Wayfarer also copied as a Mistral, CL 16 etc. Having raced a Finn for years, I also agree it is NOT a good starter boat. If you are looking for something with a better turn of speed a 420 or 470 would also do nicely.

Regards,

Bob
10-18-2011 05:16 PM
sbonham I'd suggest a Wayfarer. It's a quick to plane 15' monohull - with a cockpit roomy enough for a small crew. You can sail them with main, or main + jib, even a spinnaker. Easy to capsize (when mistakes are made) - but easy recovery. Many for sale regularly for 2K and under with trailer.

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10-14-2011 08:44 AM
deeman I just started this year and taught myself the basics on a Laser. I did a full restore on a $500 boat and it's provided a million dollars worth of good times.

There will be lots of Laser haters but it's a fantastic single handed boat with a huge following and lots of resources for parts and advice.
10-08-2011 06:05 PM
INMA Some clubs have club yachts for new members to learn on.

Consider joining a club and using other people's boats while you figure out what to buy.
10-07-2011 11:19 PM
paulk
What's around

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Originally Posted by robbieland View Post
my current thought is perhaps the "vintage" o'day daysailer. good starter? the recommended Lido, Capri or Lazer are great recommendations, but currently with my shopping in the southeastern section of USA , so far, out of my under $2k range. I'm configuring to shop...but at current, may go with the daysailer.
A daysailer would be a good bet. It's sufficiently forgiving that you won't go for any surprise swims. It's also built well enough you won't be likely to break it, and when you're ready to move on, it's a known quantity that you'll be able to sell. It's also small enough to sail by yourself, but big enough to take other people out too, so you don't HAVE to be alone if you don't want to be. If there's one nearby at the right price, a bird in hand is worth two out in the bush.
10-07-2011 08:22 PM
HELLICONIA54 Most people regard the TS16 as just a big dinghy anyway.It's sailed as one.It will fall over in stiff breeze if you are not carefull,and from what i've read,self rescue is not that easy.
10-07-2011 06:56 PM
SailBerkeley Highly recommend starting off sailing a dinghy. By virtue of being keel-less, they force you to mind balance and other subtleties that can be ignored when sailing a big, tolerant keelboat.
09-26-2011 06:55 AM
HELLICONIA54
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Originally Posted by SHNOOL View Post
Precision 15 keel, or capri 14 keel should keep you under the $2k limit... but hard to find...

"CaptnFoolHardy" sorry, forgot the Precisions, also great little boats. +1

You should be able to pick up a 20+ yo capri 14.2 centerboard for well less than $2k with a trailer, but be prepared to work for it, but again, reminder the centerboard capri is a tough learner. Precisions seem to hold their value more, and are harder to find... I have no experience looking for a lido.

An Oday 15 DSII I think, is also a decent boat, little easier than a P15, or a Capri 14 centerboard, but still a lively/challenging first boat.

Unweighted centerboard = potential capsize (generally), meaning expect to learn to get back into the boat. The smaller boats (laser, sunfish, force 5, etc) are easier to right, and generally easier to get back into. That being said, they are generally a wetter ride, too.

Hence if you want bigger, try to find a keel, it wont' guarantee no capsize/broach, but it will make it a lot harder to do.
If we're going into the larger boat,then why not a Hartley ts 16.Can sleep two,trailered by average 4cyl car.Not too expensive.Just a thought,"coz thats what we bought to learn in,,,LOL
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