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10-05-2011 02:42 PM
AdamLein Interesting topography. I can really see how exposed the channel is to the southeast.

Have you considered anchoring inside the Duck Island breakwater?
10-05-2011 12:34 AM
davidpm Here is the channel. It is Westbrook in CT.
As you can see there is a lot of open (shallow) water on the right where the wind was coming from.
On the left is a stone man-made breakwater.

I was alone with a tiller with no lock.
I think the sailing on furled jib might have worked. If I can duplicate the situation I'll try it for a couple hundred yards before red 2 so I still have room to bail if It don't work.
10-04-2011 01:59 PM
AdamLein Trying to picture this channel. Is it high on either side? If so, and there's enough depth, hugging the windward shore will shelter your boat from the wind somewhat. Might mean you can head in a straight line. My last marina had high rocky jetties on either side of the channel. You could definitely feel the difference in the force of the wind at high tide and low tide (14 foot tidal exchange).

I've had similar problems motoring in waves with a 9.9 on my C-27. I will never try that again; way safer to sail. However, how were you getting waves in a 15-yard-wide channel with the wind perpendicular to the channel? Were they refracting around a corner or something? In my experience in a narrow channel, even with wind, the water is usually pretty flat.

Got a lat/lon of this channel?
10-03-2011 11:26 PM
davidpm
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Originally Posted by Bene505 View Post
Yes, but that can be tough to do solo when in confined quarters about to dock.

I expect David was being cautions. He's one of the most careful people I've met, from reading accident reports and books (e.g. the Fastnet race gone bad), to preparing ahead of time.

Regards,
Brad
Thanks Brad.
I do tend to push it a little more when I'm solo than when I have crew. The theory is that if something goes wrong and I'm by myself I'm usually only endangering property.
10-03-2011 11:23 PM
davidpm
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It sounds like if you unfurled half your jib and sailed on a beam reach, you could have finished the trip in a few minutes. In rough water you can make much better progress under sail than motor, especially with an outboard. Sure some rough situations sailing is a doesnt-fit solution, but in yours, it sure sounds like the hands down way to go.
Certainly a good idea. The problem is that the channel is only about 15 yards wide with a rock breakwater on the downwind side.

I suppose what I could have done is to have gone a 10th of a mile beyond the channel and then line up for the channel and see if the boat would track down the lay line with the jib.
There is no way I would experiment like that in the the channel because if something went wrong I would have only seconds before being on the rocks.

I'll try it next time and let you know how it went unless you get to read about it on the news.
10-02-2011 01:10 AM
BarryL Hey Hugo,

HA HA but fishing isn't my bag. When I first started sailing I bought a few cheap poles figuring if fishing made my kids like being on the boat, it would be a good thing. Anyway, first time out one of my kids actually caught something - some horrible looking sea robin things with spikes and scary spines and such. Of course I had no gear to remove the hook or anything. That was an interesting adventure. Then my son dropped of the pole overboard and the others have sat in quarter berth for a few years now. I guess I should bring them home.

Barry
10-01-2011 03:07 AM
HUGOSALT
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Hey,

You did better than me: I couldn't even make it to my boat!

Yesterday I figured I would go down to boat around noon. I planned on eating lunch, working (there is wifi in the marina) with my computer, and just spending a few hours on board.

The marina is about 15 minutes from my house. I didn't check the tides, but I must have arrived at high tide. When I got down to harbor the road was flooded. The road runs right along the harbor and then between the beach on the north and the harbor on the south. Between the east wind blowing water into the sound and the new moon high tide, the water came up and up and up and over the road. I drove through the first part and saw minnows swimming over the road. I made it to a dry section, but saw at least a foot of water ahead of me and I know that it would be deeper after that so I turned around and went home.

Later I intentionally drove in the rain, looking for puddles to wash the salt off the bottom of the Honda Odyssey van.

Map of the harbor:
mt sinai harbor - Google Maps

BTW, if you zoom in enough and know where to look, you can see my boat in the picture.
Barry...still trying to figure out why you just did'nt pull over on the side of the road and breakout the fishing pole!
09-30-2011 10:35 AM
Bene505
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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
... I noticed the little powerboats seemed to be very friendly all of a sudden and stayed close.
Now THAT'S funny!

Regards,
Brad
09-30-2011 10:34 AM
Bene505
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Originally Posted by sailingfool View Post
It sounds like if you unfurled half your jib and sailed on a beam reach, you could have finished the trip in a few minutes. In rough water you can make much better progress under sail than motor, especially with an outboard. Sure some rough situations sailing is a doesnt-fit solution, but in yours, it sure sounds like the hands down way to go.
Yes, but that can be tough to do solo when in confined quarters about to dock.

I expect David was being cautions. He's one of the most careful people I've met, from reading accident reports and books (e.g. the Fastnet race gone bad), to preparing ahead of time.

Regards,
Brad
09-30-2011 09:40 AM
arknoah
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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
I actually reef before 20 because it seldom blows steady around here. If it is 20 it is really 20 to 25+. If it is 10 it is really 10 to 14+

I've had had great sails at 7 knots with the 150 all the way out.
If it even feels like the boat is working slightly too hard which can happen as low as maybe 12 to 17 I roll up to 100% and put in the reef.
The boat handles better, seems just as fast, and I don't have to worry as much about breaking something.
Amen, brother.
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