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Topic Review (Newest First)
10-06-2011 05:52 PM
PaulinVictoria Having just spent two exhausting days waxing my boat, I would suggest nothing bigger than a kayak
10-06-2011 02:48 PM
Cherie320 Size is a factor of finance. Bigger is more comfortable, but it costs more to buy, maintain, and operate. Smaller gives you sailing skills without the complexity of big boat systems....outboard vs inboard....armstrong vs winches.....trailer vs berthing.......home vs yard maintenance. Condition is king as replacing equipment and structure is expensive. Best to find the best for the least money. PO did the work and spent the money to upgrade and maintain = you get to enjoy. PO did not do the work and did not spend the money = you lose. Two approaches.....buy it done or buy good bones and fix as you have time and money. Best depends on you. If you are not handy, buy it done. If you are, doing it yourself gives you the knowledge of how it was installed and that makes future repairs easier. If you do not do a good job, this backfires, so don't fool yourself. Lots of electronics and gear may not be best becaue if they are 5-10 years old, they are bound to fail or need major repair soon. Old boats are smaller than new boats. If you are small in stature, an older boat may work for you. A 20-22 is least cost but requires compromises. A 25 is a sweet spot, because it is big enough and small enough. The 27s are a good compromise as many are good small yachts and two ft does help. The 30s make very good all around cruisers. They are big enough to provide the accomodations to make cruising comfortable and small enough not to break the budget. So establish your budget and find a boat that fits your skills. Look at an O'Day 22, a Bene 235, a Stonehorse, a Balboa 25, a Coronado 25, a Catalina 27, a C&C 29, and a Pearson 30. They represent a cross section of the designs but not the only choices that will work. Then look for the best deal in the best condition that meets your requirements. And hold back 25% of the purchase price to make the boat yours. Do it and enjoy the experience.
10-06-2011 01:21 AM
INMA I agree with contrarian learning in a medium sized keel boat is fine.

Do consider doing a course before casting off in your own yacht because 2 or 3 days in a course reduces the mistakes your likely to make in your own yacht. I put my wife on the course before me so she had the advance on knowledge and experience.

Don't scare your crew and you will have a great experience.
10-06-2011 12:24 AM
contrarian As a former owner of a Pearson 26 OD ( even less room in the cabin than a standard Pearson but a huge cockpit) I would recommend the E27. I looked very hard at an E27 before I purchased the Pearson but this particular boat just had too many issues otherwise I would have chosen the Ericson. I know I am going against the traditional grain in saying this but I don't agree with the adage that you should learn to sail in a smaller boat. If you want to race dingies then buy a dingy. If you want to cruise buy a cruiser. I really think you should look at a 30 footer, you will probably own it longer before the 3footitis sets in than you will with the 27. The learning curve will be virtually the same on either boat with the exception of perhaps inboard vs outboard motors.
10-05-2011 09:51 AM
emoney If you had said should I get the 16' Mistral or the 27' Ericson, then I might've leaned towards the smaller of the two in order to gain experience. However, at a 5' difference, you might as well move into the larger of the two that allows for more comfort for the family. Like someone posted above me, there's not a "ton" of difference between sailing the two. Having said that, are there any clubs nearby that you can join? And yes, you can join without owning a boat yet; a lot of people do. I ask, because if so, you could always let your club-mates know what your intentions are and could more than likely be able to crew on boats of both sizes so you can get a feel for the difference, if any.
10-05-2011 07:33 AM
SanSimon
Ericson 27

I just purchased and sailed an Ericson 27 from Charleston to St. Simons Ga with my wife who had minimal sailing experience but HAS titanium fortitude. I grew up on LIS sailing out of CT and later the Pacific. I've handled lots of boats and for size, stability and comfort (no onboard shower - at least not now) the Ericson is a hands down winner. Our boat; SanSimeon, who we now dearly love after an incredible three day sail - performed without a flaw. For what you describe - I think a 27 is a good choice. A 22 is good for close shore sailing but would wear you down as the seas go up in height. Our E27 ran 120 NM's in 26 hours out on the open Atlantic with 3 ft. plus seas and 15 - 20 knot winds and never presented the slightest problem - comfortable and stable - the helm is very balanced - a self furling jib makes trimming quick and easy - our main is smaller which sets the boom higher great for getting around the cockpit in heavier seas - the stern set helm makes a comfortable and snug area from which to pilot - it was on the chilly side! And the settees gave mom a good nap here and there. Net net personally I think 27 would be better - sounds like you'll end up there anyway - lots of 27s or there abouts out there from lots of manufacturers - Ericson just happens to be a great well respected name - good luck - GET A SURVEY! DK
09-30-2011 11:21 AM
dhays My usual recommendation is to start small. A smaller boat will teach you more about boat handling a lot quicker than a larger boat will.

However, the E27 is a great boat and likely could be picked up for a song in today's market. For weekend getaways, it would be much more comfortable than either of the others and the E27 sails well and isn't too big as a learning platform.

Good luck. You can't make a bad choice.
09-30-2011 09:47 AM
mikel1 I love my E27...check out ericsonyachts.org, lots of info and lists of for sale, great time to buy any boat... lots out there cheap. I,m in Allen harbor near Newport, the e27 has a nice and roomy interior and sails well they had great build quality and a great following and reputation...
09-30-2011 09:30 AM
JimsCAL The 22 is fine for daysailing and an occasional overnight, but is a bit small for more extended cruising along the southern New England coast. Like cranki above, I owned a Pearson 26 years ago and cruised on her from western Long Island Sound to places like Block Island, Newport, and Martha's Vineyard each summer. Really not much difference between handling a 22 versus a 26-27, and the added size is really appreciated when the weather is less than optimum.
09-30-2011 12:57 AM
davidpm It's all about condition.
All the boats you mentioned will do the job.
If you can see you and yours fitting into a particular boat and it is in good condition you should be good.
If the Ericson is the best boat you will get used to it and it will be easier to spend time down below.
If the 22 is the best boat you will have a great time and probably not spend that much time below.
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