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01-27-2012 10:59 AM
Spyder
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Originally Posted by cb32863 View Post
A 35' sailboat is not going to have 280 sq ft of livable space inside..... They aren't a rectangle. You should go look at some 35' boats, 25 foot trailerables as well, and get a real feel for the interior space.

FWIW....

I've purchased two 20'+ trailerable catboat, and never taken either out on a trailer. They're just a real pain in the neck to rig on a trailer, but wonderful to sail or live on. Finding a catboat over 23' is kind of difficult...or is a catamaran you're suggesting?
01-26-2012 10:33 PM
aeventyr60
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Originally Posted by Brent Swain View Post
Vancouver BC is pretty tiny spec of BC. I've cruised BC for most of the last 40 years and haven't been to Vancouver in years, and have no desire to go there. I haven't paid moorage on my current boat in 27 years. Newport is a long stretch of open ocean from any good cruising grounds. You'd be better off in Puget sound.
Maybe get a smaller boat first, keep it on a mooring or the trailer up in Bellingham or Anacortes, then you can explore the wonderful cruising grounds of the San Juans and Gulf islands. As your skills, confidence and seamanaship improve you can push off further North or offshore....
01-26-2012 02:27 AM
Brent Swain
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Originally Posted by Faster View Post
How live-aboard-friendly is Newport OR? I'd say that's the first part of the puzzle. It's difficult to find legal live aboard moorage in Vancouver BC.. and if you do it's pricey and the city gets its share too. As a result, esp if financing the boat it's not a particularly inexpensive way to live.

As to the boat itself, both approaches may well work for you... how much use you'd get out of the larger liveaboard may depend on how easily handled she is, and what's actually involved in getting away from the dock... A disadvantage to that part of the coast is a lack of protected cruising waters such as what we enjoy in BC.

It may be that an inexpensive trailerable, continuing to live economically in your trailer, and getting sailing experience by traveling around to different areas (including Puget Sound and BC waters) makes the most sense.

Good luck!
Vancouver BC is pretty tiny spec of BC. I've cruised BC for most of the last 40 years and haven't been to Vancouver in years, and have no desire to go there. I haven't paid moorage on my current boat in 27 years. Newport is a long stretch of open ocean from any good cruising grounds. You'd be better off in Puget sound.
10-13-2011 06:24 PM
vega1860
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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Maybe a cat?
Finding a slip for a cat is almost impossible in some areas and always cost more, sometimes twice as much, as for a monohull.

We found the PNW very live-aboard friendly but, if we intended to stay in that area we would definitely switch to a trawler.

Click HERE for more details about living on a trailerable, blue-water capable, cruising boat. Check the links below for a little slice of the cruising/live-aboard life.
10-10-2011 10:49 PM
Faster No idiot.... and I'm sure CB was just trying to be helpful... but to the uninitiated that stretch of coast has a horrendous reputation, esp outside the summer season.

Your stated desire to do some cruising/exploring seems to point to either a trailerable or to the idea of keeping a boat somewhat remote from where you live, but in a better cruising region like Puget Sound. Weekend cruising and quick overnighters are going to be less attractive or limited without actually moving up or down a coast that is known for bad weather and bar harbours.

Maybe you just need to try to get transferred to an area where your liveaboard/cruising dreams are more easily achieved!!
10-10-2011 10:35 PM
speedbug78 "Suggest you go out on the open ocean with an experienced skipper in his boat or on a fishing charter boat to find out if you and your wife like it before buying an ocean going boat and finding out later that either of you don't want to spend days on end on the open ocean, which at times can be like being inside an industrial sized cloths dryer."

My thoughts exactly, however finding a skipper who's willing in my area seems to be the hard part, which is why I'm talking to you guys first.



"Sailing up the coast from as far down as Newport would be a BIG DEAL!"

Yes, I expect so, please don't have any illusions that I plan to do so, I was merely asking what it was like from people who might have experience.

Why is it so difficult to express one's self succinctly in writing? CB32863's response: "A 35' sailboat is not going to have 280 sq ft of livable space inside..... They aren't a rectangle" really got me, I wasn't sure what to write back. I'm a 33 year old engineer who'd rather work with his hands than sit behind a desk, and the fact that (most) sailboats aren't rectangles seemed rather obvious. After reading other posts CB32863 has made he seems really nice, and was trying to help I'm sure, but it stung a bit.

I apologize if I've sounded like an idiot, who's going to go out and kill himself in a big boat. The only excuse I can give is that I get excited about sailing whether its the Oday Daysailer I used to own, or the canoe I converted to sail before that, or something else in the future.
10-10-2011 08:18 PM
DwayneSpeer
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Originally Posted by speedbug78 View Post
A couple of other tidbits for input:
What is it like sailing up the coast? Say I wanted to go to Portland or something?
Is it reasonable to purchase a boat in the size range we're talking about for $50k?

Thanks again for the input.
Sailing up the coast from as far down as Newport would be a BIG DEAL! If you're going to live aboard find someplace in Puget Sound OR get a trailerable boat.
10-10-2011 07:26 PM
dabnis Speed,

"My existing sailing experience/knowledge is from smaller sailboats (<20') in protected waters."

Suggest you go out on the open ocean with an experienced skipper in his boat or on a fishing charter boat to find out if you and your wife like it before buying an ocean going boat and finding out later that either of you don't want to spend days on end on the open ocean, which at times can be like being inside an industrial sized cloths dryer.

Dabnis
10-10-2011 02:13 PM
jackdale
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Originally Posted by cb32863 View Post
A 35' sailboat is not going to have 280 sq ft of livable space inside..... They aren't a rectangle.

Maybe a cat?
10-10-2011 02:11 PM
blt2ski I would also hop on board a few boats at dealers or equal. Some boats are more open ala a Hunter/Jeanneau/Beneteau vs some what some call better built boats will be smaller in sq footage for a given size. Newer boats are roomier in general terms than boats 10-15yr+ old. There is also less solid wood, more laminates/plywoods etc used today than yrs pas. European built boats have more laminates than NA built boats due to lack of forests to get the wood among other reasons. Personally I am not always positive solid is better than a plywood. Both have places frankly.

The other question re time. If you can go with the current figure 7-9 miles an hour, if not about 5-7 for the boat itself, if agains the current, ie going up the Columbia, 3-5 miles an hour. If Portland is say 100 miles from you, that is anywhere from a looooong trip of 30 hrs to as little as 10'ish. All the way up the Wa coast in to the Str of Juan de Fuca to the san juan islands, IIRC about 400 or so miles at 5 knots is 80 hrs straight! No real places along a lot of the Wa coast to stop if things get hairy. IF you could do say 6-8 hrs a day. that is almost 2 weeks to get up here.



Marty
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